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« on: December 24, 2002, 07:25:01 AM »
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I've been spending much time recently looking at bulletin board. One of the things I especially like about YaBB is its true read-marks. I know of only one other free bulletin board package that offers that. I mentioned to my prospective new Web host that I wanted to install YaBB-SE, and they said no way was I putting any version of YaBB on their servers, that YaBB was a resource hog--too much memory, too much CPU time--and made their servers unstable. I asked if they'd tried YaBB-SE (just released in November, as I understand it). They said no, they would, but for the foreseeable future, no YaBB.

So what's the deal with this?? I read another message on this forum about a host that wouldn't allow YaBB on the server. Is YaBB feature rich but server nasty? Is YaBB-SE better in this department than the original YaBB?
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2002, 08:25:59 AM »
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This is the problem with keeping the same name.  YaBB is resource intensive, that can still be argued though.  YaBBSE is not.  Especially with the upcoming 1.5 release it will use even fewer resources.  Most hosts who say no to YaBBSE are ignorant.  ;)
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« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2002, 09:00:26 AM »
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What new features are planned for version 1.5?

I have a wish that probably won't come true... The true read marks in this forum are great, but the way they're visually indicated is not great. There are too many icons for indicating various types of "importantness", and then there's nothing left for indicating whether it's read so you have to put the read mark in a different place. That little "new" graphic is hard to scan because it's not in a single column--its position depends on how long the message subject is. I think this is a weakness of the design. I like the open/closed envelope convention for indicating what's been read.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2002, 09:07:52 AM »
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That wouldn't be too hard to change. It would make a good first mod for you. ;)
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« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2002, 01:01:04 PM »
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If your perspective new host is unwilling to listen, then find a different one
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« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2002, 01:43:00 PM »
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Quote from: Scotty_B on December 24, 2002, 01:01:04 PMIf your perspective new host is unwilling to listen, then find a different one

I agree, but let's keep things in prospective! :P
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« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2002, 02:23:36 PM »
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Actually, I do plan to use a different host if they don't listen. I haven't moved my site off my development machine yet--I'm at the "initial choice" stage. I think the choice of bulletin board software is important. The other BB software I've been considering is Ikonboard, since their latest version (3.1) also includes true read marks. But there are other things about it I don't like. You have to run an ad for their hosting service at the top of your board, and they don't allow you to change the color or size of words inside your post. Users like to do that.
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« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2002, 02:37:35 PM »
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Are there any experiences from Yabb Gold -> YabbSE Updaters, how much traffic YabbSE causes in comparison to Yabb Gold?

Much or less?
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2002, 03:39:02 PM »
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Quote from: klumy on December 24, 2002, 02:37:35 PMAre there any experiences from Yabb Gold -> YabbSE Updaters, how much traffic YabbSE causes in comparison to Yabb Gold?

Much or less?

If you have zlib installed it will be less if you enable gzip, however traffic isnt really the big issue, its server resources and YSE is much more efficent,

My old gold board with 34,913 posts was just starting to crawl and the search feature couldnt work with the amount of posts it had, the only option that was available was to remove old threads and the though of that made me want to  :'( :'(.

Then YSE came along and I though, what the hell I'll convert, so I did, now I have 94,557 posts and it's still as fast as the day I converted - plus the search works.

Y1G/sp whatever is a good board, but really isnt cut out for a largeish board.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2002, 03:42:38 PM »
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It can be cut almost in half (bandwidth) depending on what you have on our forum. We save about 40% on this forum...
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2002, 07:37:18 PM »
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Quote from: permutations on December 24, 2002, 02:23:36 PMActually, I do plan to use a different host if they don't listen. I haven't moved my site off my development machine yet--I'm at the "initial choice" stage. I think the choice of bulletin board software is important. The other BB software I've been considering is Ikonboard, since their latest version (3.1) also includes true read marks. But there are other things about it I don't like. You have to run an ad for their hosting service at the top of your board, and they don't allow you to change the color or size of words inside your post. Users like to do that.
are you sure you are talking about the script and not the host?
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2002, 07:45:40 PM »
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I turned out to be wrong about both of these things. Sorry--I'm still learning. You can change the color and size of words within a message, but it's not available through a button bar. You have to write the little codes in there. Also, it doesn't require ads. Sorry for giving misinformation.
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Re:does YaBB hog resources?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2002, 09:16:54 PM »
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Quote from: permutations on December 24, 2002, 07:25:01 AMSo what's the deal with this?? I read another message on this forum about a host that wouldn't allow YaBB on the server. Is YaBB feature rich but server nasty? Is YaBB-SE better in this department than the original YaBB?

Tell your host that we have around 60 users browsing at any time and a server load of about 0.1 - and we expect it to be less with v2 :)
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2002, 09:20:52 PM »
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Quote from: Greg Robson on December 24, 2002, 09:16:54 PM
Quote from: permutations on December 24, 2002, 07:25:01 AMSo what's the deal with this?? I read another message on this forum about a host that wouldn't allow YaBB on the server. Is YaBB feature rich but server nasty? Is YaBB-SE better in this department than the original YaBB?

Tell your host that we have around 60 users browsing at any time and a server load of about 0.1 - and we expect it to be less with v2 :)
And that I have a server with 2400 YaBBSE boards with a load of about .60.  Albiet we made some modifications though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2002, 09:50:19 PM »
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Actually, I gave the host a link to this thread, so they can come see for themselves what you all have to say.  :)
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