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Title: PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: DutchBoy on November 30, 2001, 05:11:18 AM
Just wanted to ask if it would be compatible with portal software like phpnuke and postnuke... and I guess any other similar portal systems.

how it is now.. I mean with the perl version I have to open the board in a separate window.  otherwise the yabb template css is used for phpnuke.... and when i click on a link it opens in a new page anyway..

Anyway... just curious. If you want a site to test it on. I'll put up a phpnuke portal and give you guys access to it..

btw this looks great... keep it up guys
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on November 30, 2001, 05:47:27 AM
If one did this integration, I suppose it should be done with postnuke instead of phpnuke. Were there not some messages, that phpnuke wont be GPL in the future? Many changed from phpnuke to postnuke because of that. Furthermore, the development of phpnuke is done by one guy, for postnuke its a team. The support community is much better and for postnuke than for phpnuke, the response time is much faster and the language is much friendlier in the postnuke forums, too.
Also important to know: the database tables of phpnuke and postnuke are different.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: DutchBoy on November 30, 2001, 09:04:04 PM
gotcha... I'll look into putting a postnuke up on my site then.. if you're interested
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Z3RatuL on December 04, 2001, 03:06:51 PM
I'm very interested in that integration too... I've installed every board tha come's as a module for postnuke and I never felt like using YaBB... Also I have already a Perl version of YaBB with many posts and stuff and want them to fill them in postnuke database. If someone makes this integration please inform me :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on December 04, 2001, 03:11:24 PM
For those of you that have run other systems with the two portals, do they basically just share a members database or are there are things that are shared?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 05, 2001, 12:19:57 AM
What should be shared, in order to be a real integration:
members, passwords, online status checks, private messages, search query

Maybe there are more issues to be shared.
Title: There is a discussion in the other board
Post by: andrea on December 05, 2001, 12:34:17 AM
Besides, there is a discussion about the same topic on the yabb.xnull community board under this link:
http://yabb.xnull.com/community/?board=scripting;action=display;num=1004690905
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 05, 2001, 10:19:01 AM
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Title: Re:There is a discussion in the other board
Post by: Joseph Fung on December 05, 2001, 10:26:10 AM
Besides, there is a discussion about the same topic on the yabb.xnull community board under this link:
http://yabb.xnull.com/community/?board=scripting;action=display;num=1004690905

Yes, but that discussion has no usefull information for the developers.  In order to design an integration, we need to know - what constitutes an integration?

Is there anyone with a phpnuke install who could, in detail, explain to us what they would have integrated and how?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: omario (at schol) on December 05, 2001, 02:45:27 PM
well before i went to school today i managed to install postnuke (better than phpnuke) and, i know at least the user profiles need to be integrated.

I'll have a play aorund today if i can, an ask codehammer about it. Hope we can work this out :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on December 05, 2001, 03:18:53 PM
hey thanks Omar!
Title: Here is some test space
Post by: andrea on December 05, 2001, 03:45:25 PM
I set up a postnuke on some test webspace, you can find under:
http://www.penthesilea.ch/yabbnuke

If you yabb se developpers are interested to look at the integration stuff, then register there and test it.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on December 05, 2001, 03:53:48 PM
many thanks!
Title: Re:There is a discussion in the other board
Post by: andrea on December 05, 2001, 04:55:41 PM
Besides, there is a discussion about the same topic on the yabb.xnull community board under this link:
http://yabb.xnull.com/community/?board=scripting;action=display;num=1004690905

Yes, but that discussion has no usefull information for the developers.  In order to design an integration, we need to know - what constitutes an integration?

Is there anyone with a phpnuke install who could, in detail, explain to us what they would have integrated and how?

As written already above:

What should be shared, in order to be a real integration:
members, passwords, online status checks, private messages, search query

Maybe there are more issues to be shared which I cannot see at this moment.

Does this answer your question. If not, then I will try to explain better.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on December 05, 2001, 04:56:28 PM
ahh - goodp point on the search, I would have missed that.

It definitely helps.  ALthough more details are always welcome :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 05, 2001, 05:55:17 PM
i haven't looked up more yet - didnt know it had pms! but i checked and phpbb managed to integrate there's ;)
i dont really knwo php but i am willing to learn and help anyone who undertakes this feat :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Ben_S on December 05, 2001, 07:39:19 PM
Some form of integration with phpnuke would be great, I use nuke on my site and YaBB and getting people to sign up for both is a bit silly :s.

Use of the same usersDB would be like all my christmas's in one  ;D.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 05, 2001, 07:40:32 PM
at the min im neutral to either nuke's ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Ben_S on December 05, 2001, 07:50:30 PM
The member details should be fairly similar on php and postnuke seeing as postnuke is basically a modified phpnuke.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 05, 2001, 10:11:54 PM
Quote
The member details should be fairly similar on php and postnuke seeing as postnuke is basically a modified phpnuke.
Thats what I am supposing, too. If done for postnuke, it should work on phpnuke, too. Some weeks ago, when doing some test installations, the postnuke database was equal to phpnuke database rel. 6.4.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on December 07, 2001, 09:19:21 PM
PostNuke is as different from PHPNuke as a volkswagon is to a cadillac with the Rogue .7 release.  Yes it was quite simular looking with the Mutant .64 release but the code is much different.  Many of the Modules that worked with the Mutant release will not work with the Rogue release due to the many changes in the code.  

I have the .sql file that phpBB uses to alter the rogue database during integration if it would be of any help.  I personally would rather have a YaBB forum so any help I can give you would be to my benefit.

cheers..........
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 10, 2001, 09:24:24 PM
bump!
aanyone gonna take the challenge? ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 11, 2001, 03:35:32 AM
PostNuke is as different from PHPNuke as a volkswagon is to a cadillac with the Rogue .7 release.  Yes it was quite simular looking with the Mutant .64 release but the code is much different.  Many of the Modules that worked with the Mutant release will not work with the Rogue release due to the many changes in the code.  

I have the .sql file that phpBB uses to alter the rogue database during integration if it would be of any help.  I personally would rather have a YaBB forum so any help I can give you would be to my benefit.

cheers..........
I took a look at the rogue version, it seems that the user database has changed. Authors and admins are now in the user database, with special permission settings. Could you send me that .sql file that phpBB uses to alter the rogue database? You can send it to ahubacher@bluewin.ch
 
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Slav on December 12, 2001, 01:39:04 AM
Yes wondering if ican get that sql file also
webmaster@technicallythere4you.com
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 12, 2001, 05:24:13 PM
Thanks for sending the file, John.
However now I understand (didnt know yet when asking for the .sql file, I'm on beginner level in php): one does not need this phpBB file, since we dont have to make a .sql file for the integration. YaBB SE will have an own .sql file. With that you can create the YaBB tables within any database that is already existing, within postnuke or whatever you want. With the YaBB SE installer, you can even change the prefix of the tables.

The more difficult part is to let the postnuke and the YaBB use the same users, passwords, etc.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on December 13, 2001, 09:44:19 AM
Yes, as it is you can use YaBB SE with PostNuke but it would be with 2 different logins, 1 for the Forum and the othet for PostNuke.  In order to achive true integration the Member data file definations would have to be changed so that the 2 different pieces of software could interact with each other by having common data.

            Actually, YaBB SE does not have a SQL file as that function is taken care of by the install.php to make things easier for new users or people that are not php programmers.  I was able to create a SQL file for YaBB SE but I dont think that it will be included in the distrabution.

cheers.........
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 13, 2001, 09:55:34 AM
Yes, as it is you can use YaBB SE with PostNuke but it would be with 2 different logins, 1 for the Forum and the othet for PostNuke.  In order to achive true integration the Member data file definations would have to be changed so that the 2 different pieces of software could interact with each other by having common data.

            Actually, YaBB SE does not have a SQL file as that function is taken care of by the install.php to make things easier for new users or people that are not php programmers.  I was able to create a SQL file for YaBB SE but I dont think that it will be included in the distrabution.

cheers.........
1st. With the installer you could first install the YaBB SE in an already existing db, for instance a postnuke. 2nd. Furthermore I suppose that the .sql file will be still in the distribution verseion, because this is somehow the state of the art.

Of course the matter is to integrate the user files. But more. Not only the logins, also the IM's, the search and more. See above.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 15, 2001, 12:20:54 PM
http://mods.postnuke.com/ <- you mightwanna post there aswell?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: dgodfrey on December 15, 2001, 04:32:43 PM
Great topic guys!  I would like PHPWebsite to be considered for portal integration.  It is a great little package and uses a lot of Nuke like stuff, but is very easy to administer and you can put standard html in the blocks, almost like programming PHP code in an HTML editor, or even in notepad...with html tags, instead of PHP code.  It is actually an XHTML output!

You can find this portal and its info at: http://phpwebsite.appstate.edu.

Aside from that, myPHPNuke is a good portal that I can use if I have to.  My current plan, however, is to just add a link in my menu (on phpwebsite) to YaBBSE and they will just have to re-enter their info, as it will open in a new window and they can go back to the main site by closing the YaBB window.

My test site using phpwebsite can be found here: http://www.grace-pentecostal.org
Thanks,

Derek    :D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: NewRaven on December 22, 2001, 12:43:52 AM
Seems, I'm the only who thinks phpnuke is better than postnuke (I've tested both a long time). Whatever...

Two Ideas:

1. It would be a good start to make a (RSS/RDF) backend to YaBB SE so all phpnuke and postnuke users can include the Topics and last threads and so on from the board to the portal.

2. those guys who will take the challenge should take a look on the Tables (the SQL - File) of a PHP-Nuke and a Postnuke. Without this - nothing goes. For example: PHP-Nuke saves the Users in the Table nuke_users and YaBB SE in yabbse_members! So YaBB SE must read this from the Nuke-Tables and the registered Nuke-Users should also registered into YaBB SE...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on December 22, 2001, 01:06:10 AM
I just checked out these two systems and there's all kinds of mods for them.  I would like to change my site to one of these CMSs if you guys can integrate YaBB SE with them.  It would be kool to have the Users Online, Polls, News, Chat, using the same information.  I just learned about telnet, tar.gz tonight installing Post-Nuke with a Windows XP theme.  It looks really good, especially with the ability to update your site from any computer with internet access.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: lkth on December 22, 2001, 01:33:09 AM
i heard postnuke uses alot of resources and where did you get the win XP theme give me your site link please
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: welded on December 23, 2001, 03:02:17 AM
http://www.nextcelica.net/html/ (http://www.nextcelica.net/html/)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Pebbels on December 23, 2001, 12:20:28 PM
hello @welded
 Here  (http://www.ghn-wj.de/index.php) u can get the download-fix for ur Postnuke v 0.7.0.2 , to show all ur downloads.

Mfg Pebbels
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on December 24, 2001, 05:25:02 AM
ok, I am waiting on a friend of mine in canada to confirm if we will take on a postnukeXyaBBSE intergration. as we may drop our current project in favour of this one.

although I am not in the coding department myself this person is more than capable of doing the job.

so I like to ask if anyone here has actually started a project at all?

I hope to post back here in a few hours if I hear from him to let you guys know.

aslo is there any special note of intention to be emailed to anyone in specific? as this would more than likley become a sourceforge project.

thanks...

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on December 25, 2001, 01:34:17 AM
That would be awesome!!  Right now,  I'm using Postnuke and I love it!  Everyone is confused though about registering and logging in at two different places.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on December 25, 2001, 01:37:05 AM
If you just keep one of the admins updated on what's going on, we'd really appreciate it - there were a few other people who mentioned wanting to work on something, but as far as I know, nothing has been started.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on December 25, 2001, 01:46:45 AM
ok thanks for that joseph, I haven't heard back from my friend yet being xmas and all. he's probably out having a good time!  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on December 25, 2001, 02:40:10 PM
After, many hours of comparing the SQL files of both PostNuke and YaBB SE, I can see 2 possible options that could be done to make total integration or partial integration possible.

1 - The fieldnames in YaBB SE could be changed to be compatable with PostNuke (or phpNuke for that matter)

2 - Some sort of translation routine could be applied to the neccessary fieldnames to allow partial integration

Choice #1 would allow total integration and allow you more ability to use data from both places in both places.

Choice #2 would allow partial integration but would still allow you to share some data.

YaBB SE uses the following fields in the Member Table ID_MEMBER, memberName, realName, passwd, dateRegistered, personalText, memberGroup, gender, birthdate, websiteTitle, websiteURL, location, ICQ, AIM, YIM, hideEmail, timeFormat, signature, posts, timeOffset, avatar, im_ignore_list, im_email_notify, karmaGood, karmaBad & lastLogin


PostNuke uses the following fields in the Member Table uid, name, uname, email, femail, url, user_avatar, user_regdate, user_icq, user_occ, user_from, user_interest, user_sig, user_viewemail, user_theme, user_aim, user_yim, user_msnm, pass, storynum, umode, uorder, thold, noscore, bio, ublockon, ublock, theme, commentmax, counter, timezone_offset, posts, attachsig, rank & level


Not being a programmer, I am unsure of the methods needed to implement choice #2 but would think that something like what follows would probably suffice:


$memberName = $uname - each required field could be set the same way.  This would prpbably have to be inserted into settings.php for it to be effective.  Once the YaBB SE cookie was set then it would be easier the next time around.

Just a few thoughts on the idea that might be read by more learned programmers than myself who just might want to take up the challenge.

cheers..........
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: dgodfrey on December 25, 2001, 08:36:20 PM
I still want a port for PHPWebsite!!

Derek
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: The_Master on December 25, 2001, 08:44:36 PM
hmm... you could transform yabb itself to a portal. Like http://www.phpportals.com/ (http://www.phpportals.com/) has done with vbulletin.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 25, 2001, 09:30:07 PM

hmm... you could transform yabb itself to a portal.

The same I'm thinking, too. By adding some more flexibility into the right places, one could add some portal like functionality into the YaBB SE.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: dgodfrey on December 26, 2001, 12:27:01 AM
Would that be easy?  And is anyone willing to do it?  I have people signing up for the Yabb boards, but not the Content Management System (PHPWebsite).  So this might be useful?

Derek
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: NewRaven on December 26, 2001, 12:36:03 AM
Writing a Portal (CMS)-Script is never easy... "adding some more flexibility into the right places" is a good start, but a Portal is a little more than that. Good block- management, good newsboard... a good article-database... and much more... that will take a lot of time...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 26, 2001, 01:07:21 AM
stay on focuus: integrating yabb to postnuke ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: pureLuxus on December 26, 2001, 10:45:01 PM
nice topic pls intigrate yabb se into postnuke ..  postnuke is definatly the best _free_ content management system .. many develophers make it better every day.. phpnuke = one man project .. phpwebsite is good too but postnuke is better for sure ;) so pls work together on a postnuke yabbse module ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: dgodfrey on December 27, 2001, 01:18:01 AM
I have not tried Post-Nuke personally, but I really like PHPWebsite, except for a slight problem with extra spacing in some of the blocks (which I can live with for now).  It has more add-ons and mods that are useful to me than what I could find available for phpnuke or postnuke either one.  The only integration I really need is one user account for both YaBB SE and PHPWebsite.

Derek  :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Spawn on December 27, 2001, 11:50:48 AM

i heard postnuke uses alot of resources and where did you get the win XP theme give me your site link please



No that is not true. I read many times that phpnuke uses alot of resources while postnuke is easy on the server.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Sevon on December 27, 2001, 04:18:53 PM
I prefer PHPNuke over postnuke, whoever is doing that consider there are more phpnuke users than postnuke users I believe.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: NewRaven on December 27, 2001, 10:04:38 PM
I prefer PHPNuke over postnuke, whoever is doing that consider there are more phpnuke users than postnuke users I believe.

Right :) And a nice feeling to know, that I'm not the only one here. ;)

@Spawn

Thats not true, too. Postnuke requires the same lot of resources than PHPNuke. And both are not really easy on the server.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on December 28, 2001, 02:36:20 AM
When I first started playing with PostNuke, I was still using an old P75 box running Win95/Apache/PHP/MySQL and never had any problems with system resources.  In fact, most users had difficulty believing me when I told them what the system consisted of.

Yes, PHPNuke is nice but it has one developer while PostNuke has many developers that contribute to it's growth.

Personally, I use PostNuke and find that it meets my needs and then some.

cheers...........
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: NewRaven on December 28, 2001, 05:57:02 AM

When I first started playing with PostNuke, I was still using an old P75 box running Win95/Apache/PHP/MySQL and never had any problems with system resources.  In fact, most users had difficulty believing me when I told them what the system consisted of.

Yes, PHPNuke is nice but it has one developer while PostNuke has many developers that contribute to it's growth.

Personally, I use PostNuke and find that it meets my needs and then some.

cheers...........


ONE Nuke System should also run on a 486 DX 2/66, but most hoster have more than one user who run a system like that...

Yes, everybody says that postnuke is better cause many people work on it together... I don't think so... Postnuke is not bad... but it's even no better than the original...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Big Bensch on December 28, 2001, 03:20:11 PM


I prefer PHPNuke over postnuke, whoever is doing that consider there are more phpnuke users than postnuke users I believe.


Right :) And a nice feeling to know, that I'm not the only one here. ;)

@Spawn

Thats not true, too. Postnuke requires the same lot of resources than PHPNuke. And both are not really easy on the server.



Hey Guy's I'm using Postnuke but today, i'm going to deliete Postnuke and I'm going to install Php nuke, cuz Postnuke go some ***king bugs

Plz make one for PHPnuke

my portal/homepage with postnuke & YaBB se is here

http://www.bigbensch.com (http://www.bigbensch.com)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Surfer on December 28, 2001, 06:37:34 PM
Big Bensch,

Your site seems extremely slow and I have DSL.  I am not sure which of these portals seems better, but the one with the best support team seems like the best to team with.  Secondly, let us know when you get PHP Nuke up, because if it were any slower loading I would scrap the whole idea.  Most surfers would probably never let the page finish loading at that rate.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Big Bensch on December 28, 2001, 09:08:03 PM

Big Bensch,

Your site seems extremely slow and I have DSL.  I am not sure which of these portals seems better, but the one with the best support team seems like the best to team with.  Secondly, let us know when you get PHP Nuke up, because if it were any slower loading I would scrap the whole idea.  Most surfers would probably never let the page finish loading at that rate.




Hello Surfer!


plz call me BigBensch  ;) :)


I installed php nuke and you can see it here

http://bensch.bigbensch.com/ (http://bensch.bigbensch.com/)

sorry for the ad, i'm to lazyt to remove it, cuz its only for testing.

tomorrow (or today (it's 3.01 am ;) )

I'm going to make it on the same standart, with the same posts and so on :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on December 29, 2001, 03:41:33 AM
Ok for all those intereseted...
between dllsrc and myself...

there has been an agreement to kick start a project of intergrating postnuke with yaBBSE and further discussions are in progress.
and will let you know when it comes out of "air" stage and into alpha, kind of like a pre -alpha stage  ;D

it will happen. not over night but it will happen  ;D

oh and so far we have decided to stick with postnuke 0.6.4 as it is a stable version. then move onto PN next stable release.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on December 29, 2001, 09:03:55 AM

Ok for all those intereseted...
between dllsrc and myself...

there has been an agreement to kick start a project of intergrating postnuke with yaBBSE and further discussions are in progress.
and will let you know when it comes out of "air" stage and into alpha, kind of like a pre -alpha stage  ;D

it will happen. not over night but it will happen  ;D

oh and so far we have decided to stick with postnuke 0.6.4 as it is a stable version. then move onto PN next stable release.




damn it..
i use .7 - but maybe it would work for that also?
have u got anywhere where we can see progress ? ;)

thanks for trying this guys! let me know if i can be of any assistance!

Omario
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on December 29, 2001, 09:27:41 AM
Quote
damn it..
i use .7 - but maybe it would work for that also?
have u got anywhere where we can see progress ?

thanks for trying this guys! let me know if i can be of any assistance!



no where to see progress yet as we have just been discussing it at this point. I hope to hear from dllsrc over the next few hours. as with xmass and everything things have been in slow mode :)

the main reason for looking at PN 0.6.4 is that it is stable. where as the .702 is still alpha as far as I know so there may be lots of changes to come in that release.

but like I say, as soon as I hear from dllsrc again I hope to have more info. and hopefully a forum set up.

and yes we will be sure to ask for assistance.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on December 29, 2001, 10:50:44 AM
Obviously you haven't read much about Postnuke if you think that the Mutant 0.6.4 is the most stable version.  I have been using Rogue since the Preview and that was the only time Rogue was in Alpha, it has been stable since .0.7.1 and with the release of 0.7.2 it is even better as it cleaned up many previous bugs that still exist in the Mutant 0.6.4 release.

cheers..........
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: dgodfrey on December 29, 2001, 11:23:41 AM
I still want someone to talk with ASU and see if they can integrate with PHPWebsite  :'(

I have had many good comments about PHPWebsite (my site using it).

Thanks,

Derek
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on December 29, 2001, 05:01:18 PM
well that may be true about rogue being stable. as sometimes alpha programmes are stable. but the fact remains alpha also means many changes may or may not occcur.

Don't get me wrong I would prefer to be using the rogue edition also. However I am not the one who will be writing the code.

It's always better to work with a programme who's structure won't be changing in order to be able to upgrade to the next stable structure that is frozen/won't be changing also.

I can only imagine the amount of man hours that is put into sifting through code and intergrating it into another programme to make it work. it would be a shame to spend all that time and then you find out the alpha version had a huge structure change and you have to do it all over again.

However I can ask over at postnuke to see what changes are likely to occur, but i'm not sure I will get a definate answer, as apha is alpha.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Grunt on December 29, 2001, 11:30:03 PM
Hi all. Glad I found this discussion.

I read and follow the developers mailing list for postnuke. If you are going to go forward with this integration, then by all means you should use the rogue series as a basis. Granted at this point it still has more bugs than .64.

BUT, the user system and permissions are so drastically different and new that it would double the effort if you start out with .64.

I admin though, this really has got me excited. Some of my sites currently use vbulletin and YabbSE looks like an equal competitor. I may switch over my postnuke sites to Yabb if this comes to fruitition. Plus you would gain a ton of new users and exposure :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on December 30, 2001, 08:52:56 AM

... by all means you should use the rogue series as a basis. Granted at this point it still has more bugs than .64.

BUT, the user system and permissions are so drastically different and new that it would double the effort if you start out with .64.

Agree completely with that. A lot wiser to start with rogue than with 64. Until the integration is programmed, rogue will be stable.

I'm sorry do not have the time to participate in the development process, but I can make a test website and beta test the programs for you guys.  :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Rcori on January 02, 2002, 03:28:06 AM
It is now Officially a topic at PostNuke.

http://mods.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=487&mode=thread&order=0 (http://mods.postnuke.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=487&mode=thread&order=0)

I would suggest anyone interested post a reply in the comments to let them know there is interest for this.
I have been playing with postnuke for about a week now and an total intergration with yabb would be incrediable.
Rcori
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Apakuni on January 02, 2002, 11:55:26 AM
I would love to see YaBB modularized for PostNuke.  

I really like PostNuke over PHPNuke.  The install is easier and the support/dev community is extremely active and professional.  

Regards

Apakuni

PS: Tried to Register but kept getting this error ...

2: Empty delimiter
(/home/httpd/html/yabbinfo/www/community/Sources/Register.php ln 173)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on January 02, 2002, 12:01:08 PM

PS: Tried to Register but kept getting this error ...


What username were you trying to register?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on January 02, 2002, 12:08:54 PM
oh yeah - that was me fixing a bug.   Fixed.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Totally on January 02, 2002, 07:14:21 PM
I posted this on the PostNuke Modules site just after Christmas, but I didn't get much response :'(

But now, there is so much more people interested in it, I assure that PostNuke is better than PHP-Nuke. The developers of PostNuke are bringing releases quite commonly. While using PostNuke for the time I have been, I have found no bugs, except in a theme that was only meant for PostNuke 0.64.

And If you do take the PostNuke step, I agree with what people have been saying previously that Rogue is such a better choice. Now that the Admins and users are together, it is so much easier for beginners at my site who are helping to log in. When I was using PHP-Nuke, my Sub Admins were confused while they had to log in twice, once for Admin and once for comments etc and then register again after that to use YaBB, because it wasn't integrated.

PostNuke Rogue is a great choice to modularize YaBB SE with.... so please! please! Choose PostNuke .7x!!!  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on January 02, 2002, 07:32:06 PM
I have mentioned the Idea of using the rogue release as opposed to 0.6.4 for the PN YaBBSE intergration. but haven't heard back from him yet. I think he is still celebrating or getting over Xmas  ;D

I know he is keen on doing the intergration so I expect to hear from him soon. as we are all chomping at the bit on this one  ;D

but I guess there will be others doing it also, although I haven't seen anyone announcing it yet.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Grunt on January 10, 2002, 08:19:54 PM
*bump*

Just had to get this up top again... this is really important to me :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: alienine on January 17, 2002, 04:21:37 AM
Well I'm willing to help if anyone will undertake the task.

As mentioned before there might be a problem with the way both databases are structured. The fact is you need to somehow share the data between those two.

The only problem is that if yabb was to become a module IT not PostNuke would have to be modfied.

So, I'm thinking that modfiying YaBB is the way to go, or better still creating man-in-the-middle script that would allow for interaction between both but I believe that would take a lot of time and would be ineffcient.

So what I'm going to try to do tonight or maybe leter depending on the time is do something drastic. I will remove all calls to the yabb member database from the script and replace them with the ones from postnuke. I will try as hard as I can to keep the thing as unchanged as possible, most probably adding an option in the config file that would either make yabb a PostNuke module or not. Though I don't see a way of making it a module and not leaving out standalone option.. Thus it would have to be added to a menu automatically and would not work through the modules.php file...

I'm not sure if this will work at all. But all there is really needed is not a module, but a yabb se that works with postnuke together.

I hope this won't raise anyone's hopes as I am busy working on something this week.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Alan Cramer on January 17, 2002, 05:01:39 AM
Well this is going to be a haunting task.  And with YaBB SE already being used by loads of people, changing things like already established MySQL queries, would stuff a whole lot of people around.  Unless there is a way to make a script which would rename or change the tables automatically.

Jeff will need to really answer if this can go ahead or not.  I am not one for decisions like this one.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: chris on January 17, 2002, 05:08:56 AM

So, I'm thinking that modfiying YaBB is the way to go, or better still creating man-in-the-middle script that would allow for interaction between both but I believe that would take a lot of time and would be ineffcient.


Hmmm... somewhere I've read about some kind of abstraction layer between *nuke and other systems... i'm going to search the article... but as far as i can remember, the article i've seen was written in german... so i don't know if it helps you...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: alienine on January 19, 2002, 04:21:05 AM
From what I know YaBB SE doesn't have that littlelo thing they call the adstraction layer... plain old MYSQL queries everywhere... PostNuke I think uses something like that..., but I know for sure if YaBB implemented something like this it would make it much easier...

I tried converting all the queries and stuff, and it is possible.. It would take some time but it's not the problem (all i had to do is make each one an if statement for whenever the members database was mentioned and if nuke was installed it would use the nuke database, which would also need to be modified since it doens't have stuff like memberGroup)

The problem lies in making both work together... since both use different directories new cookie system would need to be implemented for both. Not only that some functions like is_admin are shared with both scripts so they would have to be modified. Further all traces of YaBB login scripts and profile scripts would have to be erased...

Making yabb a mod involves tooo much editing... way too much.

I don't know about others but I guess i will have to settle for an old compatible version of phpBB... since they wirtually have the same database structure... :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on February 28, 2002, 11:50:35 PM
Well this thread is now 4 pages shorter.

I am interested in making a XOOPS module for this so I can use this instead of the hacked version of phpBB 1.4 that comes with it.  It doesn't look that hard to do, mostly removing all the authentication code and changing database queries.  Are others interested in helping?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on February 28, 2002, 11:58:44 PM
I am waiting to hear back from someone on this very same subject. I am not a coder but do wish to beta test and implement yabbSE into my xoops site.

but I will wait and here from this person first.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 01, 2002, 12:09:03 AM
actually the good thing about testing modules in Xoops is that it won't destroy anypart of your site if things don't go right, as all you do is deactivate the mod. and you can assign who can see/use it whilst in testing  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 01, 2002, 02:02:01 AM

actually the good thing about testing modules in Xoops is that it won't destroy anypart of your site if things don't go right, as all you do is deactivate the mod. and you can assign who can see/use it whilst in testing  ;D

That's why I want to write it for XOOPS and not something else.  Those developers were very smart in how they made the modules work.  Once 1.3.0 is realeased I will start playing with it.  Hopefully some YaBBSE Developers will be willing to help since they are the ones that really know the code.  Also During this process or for any developers here I am willing to give you admin to my XOOPS site so you can see what you are dealing with.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on March 01, 2002, 04:00:31 AM


actually the good thing about testing modules in Xoops is that it won't destroy anypart of your site if things don't go right, as all you do is deactivate the mod. and you can assign who can see/use it whilst in testing  ;D

That's why I want to write it for XOOPS and not something else.  Those developers were very smart in how they made the modules work.  Once 1.3.0 is realeased I will start playing with it.  Hopefully some YaBBSE Developers will be willing to help since they are the ones that really know the code.  Also During this process or for any developers here I am willing to give you admin to my XOOPS site so you can see what you are dealing with.



way to go!!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: VTI on March 01, 2002, 11:10:05 AM
Yabb rules...  ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 01, 2002, 07:00:34 PM
deamn - xoops looks nice but i just got my postnuke perfect :'(

why am i always left with a predicament?! :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 02, 2002, 05:44:07 AM
don't fret too much over it omario, the easiest way to make decisions is to simply ask yourself if you think another system will be more benificial to your needs, then  move on or stay.  if you focus on how many man hours you put into your existing system you will never move on  ;D

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on March 02, 2002, 01:29:44 PM
Has anyone found out a way to sign up new users on your PostNuke site and YaBB SE simultaneously?  or vice versa?  My users are confused with two different logins... :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 02, 2002, 01:39:32 PM

Has anyone found out a way to sign up new users on your PostNuke site and YaBB SE simultaneously?  or vice versa?  My users are confused with two different logins... :(

Nope, that is why XOOPS with a YaBBSE module would be really nice!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 02, 2002, 09:19:24 PM
im gonna start customizing a xoops :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 02, 2002, 09:22:42 PM

im gonna start customizing a xoops :)

That just sounds funny
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 02, 2002, 09:24:25 PM
lol - i like th ename

xoops ;)
xoops :D
xoops ;D
xoops  :-\

getting old ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Dave Smulders on March 02, 2002, 09:26:28 PM

Has anyone found out a way to sign up new users on your PostNuke site and YaBB SE simultaneously?  or vice versa?  My users are confused with two different logins... :(


You should get yourself new users  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 02, 2002, 09:29:46 PM
Has anyone found out a way to sign up new users on your PostNuke site and YaBB SE simultaneously?  or vice versa?  My users are confused with two different logins... :(
You should get yourself new users  ;D
That should be the same response to people who's users can't copy and paste their 300 character randomly generated password.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Rcori on March 03, 2002, 12:00:38 AM
Xoops sucks..........get a grip. I thought you had to be 13 to enter this forum...................

ps. I guess codes dont write scripts, they jus talk about people who dont except them.......if you are working on a fix for PN php or xoops just say so............
I know I know AOL is the best.
cntry
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 03, 2002, 01:10:31 AM
because of the last post I made about postnukeXyabbse was lost due to the recent backup i will repost.

Originally my friend dllsrc and I were going to work on a project involving the postnuke and YaBBSE intergration. dllsrc has since been kept busy with a lot of work so  I do not know if he will pick it up again when he gets more time. so the project we were working on is certainly in the "dead zone" for now anyway.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Larry_Laffer on March 06, 2002, 10:33:13 AM
I was PHPNuke with Version 5.1 and 5.2, I switched over to PostNuke with the Mutant and Rogue Release and now I am back with PHPNuke 5.4 and finally 5.5
I think many things must happen that I will go back the way to PostNuke.

I can understand the devs point of view because Francesco is not the easiest person to work with. But the chaos PN is producing is unbeatable. Too many cooks ...
There is no clear line. There are developing because of developing and not for the users.
The majority ist PHPNuke, at least 80% against 20% and it does not seem to change anymore. PHPNuke is now again gaining advantage with the 5.4&5.5 Versions.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 06, 2002, 08:35:22 PM
lol, i installed xoops an dhave to say its pretty sweet! :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Cebol on March 06, 2002, 09:18:16 PM
I have just installed phpnuke on my web-site, well, I really want to "integrate" phpnuke and YaBB SE, well, they are in a diferente account form the same server, well it worked for me, I just created a "stupi*" php file in the modules/Forum with.... ( you have to put the name "index.php" and dont need any files.... )

include_once ("my index.php file of the forum....It is in another account ( my.. )");

Well Im very newbie at all! Alex_Rolko installed the forum for me ( YaBB SE, I couldnt and I cant install YaBB SE "alone", I tried everything but nothing worked! )  I really think that phpnuke was easy to install ( at least with me! ) I didnt received any errors, I also prefer phpnuke X postnuke, phpnuke rox!

Well, just that, sorry Im really newbie, just trying to help!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 06, 2002, 11:15:01 PM
What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 06, 2002, 11:29:39 PM

What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?

This is where there are differences in opinion.  I do not want YaBBSE to try and become a CMS.  It is a great forum and I fear it will be spread to thin if so many CMS features are added.  Making it a module for a CMS is a good thing becuase then it is still being worked on as a forum without worrying about everything else a CMS does.  Also there are plenty of CMSs already.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on March 06, 2002, 11:30:57 PM

What exactly is the benefit of integrating PHP Nuke or whatever with YaBB SE?  Can't you acheive virtually everything that PHP nuke can do with YaBB SE?

Not really. PHP nuke does not contain a discussion board. You can feedback to published articles, but this is not the same as a board.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 06, 2002, 11:42:14 PM
so php nuke is basically an announcement board?  If so, YaBB already does that.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Microcyb on March 06, 2002, 11:51:57 PM
I gave up on the portals, and have been trying to write one of my own.

persoanlly I think YaBB should have its very own portal.  It would be the perfect addition to an awsome board.

YaPS - Yet another Portal System!!!

I started my own to have a drop down menuig system to contain more information at the base of the site, since I have so much stuff I did'nt want to have to have to click on a hundred spots just to get what I wanted.

YaBB I keep hearing is going to try a portal, but I have'nt seen anything yet.

If no YaBB portal, than dammit I will make one!! lol

o.k. I still suck at php, but I will get it one day.  I'm learning.

Looking at postnuke though, I can see you can include YaBB into it, with just a weee bit code changing around, but I think its just too messy for me.

I try for the K.I.S.S. factor.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 07, 2002, 02:27:20 AM
Quote
This is where there are differences in opinion.  I do not want YaBBSE to try and become a CMS.


I tend to think the opposite there. I have always felt professional forums Like YaBBSE needs to go that one step more and build a cms system to go with it.
And if YaBBSE decides to be adventurious and go the extra mile I say good on them for showing innovation and vision. I doubt this will effect the YaBBSE forum in a negetive way but rather in a positive way.

However I also agree YaBBSE would be an excellent choice to be moded into existing cms systems. so hey why not do both?

sure there are other cms systems out there, and I say the more the better. lots of options and choice is a good thing.

did someone say they were thinking of trying to make yaBBSE into a mod for the Xoops system?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 07, 2002, 02:44:23 AM
did someone say they were thinking of trying to make yaBBSE into a mod for the Xoops system?
Once 1.3 is released I am going to take a whack at this.  Module doc from XOOPS is also suppossed to be released soon so a combination of the two will help.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Microcyb on March 07, 2002, 09:37:18 AM
Well I do like all the portals i have seen. Some are a nightmare to install, while others are easy as pie.

I personally think that to really make YaBB SE rock the web world, it needs to go to the next level.

Is there any php coders out there that would like to tackle a new level of coding and make a new portal?

Or has evenone gotten lazy?

YaBB SE has already gotten some cool mods made for it, why not really show YaBB SE how much it rocks, and help make a portal for it?

Hell I will throw you a brand new YEPP portable mp3 to player, to those that can handle that challenge!

So I might not be a PHP god, but dammit I will not be a lazy web fool, and just leech off of others.  I have been trying to learn all that I can, and hope one day I can repay the guys who made YaBB with some cool stuff.

A brand new web portal would be just the ticket!

So are all of you just chickens, and only want a mod to use in other cheap CMS or are ya brave enough to take on the challenge of making a new, and better than ever portal to work with YaBB hand in hand!

 ::) CHICKENS!!.. I thought so...

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 07, 2002, 03:59:05 PM
I am still not clear on what benefits a CMS has over YaBB?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 07, 2002, 06:04:29 PM
sam - the only way for you to really find out is by installign a cms and using it :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 07, 2002, 06:55:04 PM
Quote
Quote
I am still not clear on what benefits a CMS has over YaBB?


I don't think either has more benifit over one or the other but rather the two systems work together to to bring out a powerfull way to run a community web site they way you like it.

Quote
Once 1.3 is released I am going to take a whack at this.  Module doc from XOOPS is also suppossed to be released soon so a combination of the two will help.

yes that sounds like a good move to wait for the next release on both. I hope the documents are easy to follow too.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 07, 2002, 08:05:04 PM
so what kind of features does php nuke have?  I see showing an announcement type setup on the front page, which yabb does, polls, which yabb does.  I haven't looked in depth to see exactly what it does, but from what I have seen nothing more than yabb can do.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 07, 2002, 08:12:55 PM
i am damn sam - there isnt much more part from the complete customizability and everything ebing nicely rounded in a package...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on March 07, 2002, 09:16:11 PM
Content Management Systems are in a whole different category than YaBB or any Message Board.  It is basically a website in a box that comes with hundreds, and hundreds of options such as polls, user selectable themes, downloads manager, links manager, user permissions system, user profiles, news and articles submission, reviews, FAQ system, user selectable languages, polls, stories, AvantGo, banners administration and tons more.  A couple items I mentioned are "blocks" that are add-ons or mods.  These add-ons rarely touch the core files so that they are easily removed.  Blocks and also "Modules" are available by the truckload on many different support sites.  Some Modules available are jIRC chat, PHP chat, Flash chat, message boards, user selectable news headlines, shopping carts, personals, classifieds, SMS messenger, buddy lists, instant messengers, picture galleries, search functions, calendars, astrology, weather, random jokes, comics, PDF reader, news scrollers, shoutbox....the list goes on and on.  Most of this can all be controlled from any computer.

What I would like to see YaBB SE do is become a "Module" for CMS software.  My site is run entirely on PostNuke which you guys might wanna check out to see what some of this looks like...

http://www.nextcelica.net (http://www.nextcelica.net)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 07, 2002, 09:48:26 PM
lmao! now that's ironic! You modified the windows xp theme to symbolise mac os x! ;D

shaun, ur site looks awesome.. my site (http://www.muslimteens.net) is also a postnuke but i suck so mine doesnt look nearly a good as his! :o
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on March 07, 2002, 10:20:20 PM
I'm sorry to see how much credit that you have given to the authors of PostNuke on your site, nothing, and I'm sure they deserve more than that.  I am pleased to see that you have given credit to the authors of YaBB-SE.

cheers........ :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: iamdamnsam on March 07, 2002, 10:38:32 PM
Ok, I see now.  Wasn't too clear on the difference, now I completely understand.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 07, 2002, 10:38:53 PM
yeah shaun! hang your head in shame! :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on March 07, 2002, 10:51:11 PM

I'm sorry to see how much credit that you have given to the authors of PostNuke on your site, nothing, and I'm sure they deserve more than that.  I am pleased to see that you have given credit to the authors of YaBB-SE.

cheers........ :)

If you looked at the bottom you would have seen this
Quote
-all contents 2001,2002 nextcelica.net unless otherwise noted-
This web site was made with PostNuke, a web portal system written in PHP
PostNuke is Free Software released under the GNU/GPL license
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Rcori on March 07, 2002, 11:04:08 PM
I just want to know how to quit getting notified when there is a post made on this thread, it started to try and get a mod going, from phpnuke then to postnuke and now to zoops or whatever, to now there going to build a new cms.................??? Ok I'll check back in a year or so. Just want to unsubscribe from this thread is all.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Razgo on March 07, 2002, 11:11:37 PM
click on "notifications" at the top of the forum to select which ones you want or don't want.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: PostDeals on March 13, 2002, 11:06:34 PM
so is there a PORTAL for yabb out yet? i need one ASAP
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 13, 2002, 11:11:55 PM
no there isnt but i heaar "David" at xoops will be integrating yabbse withxoops once v1.3 (of yabbse comes out) :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: PostDeals on March 13, 2002, 11:26:38 PM
cool i just want to give people on my site somethign different so and also charge people for advertisments so i can make some money and right now there aren't too many options with a portal i can do a lot more and offer lots of services.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on March 18, 2002, 11:41:22 PM
I'm going to be moving away from PostNuke...as much as I love it, it is the reason I had to change servers.  BANDWIDTH HOG!  30Gb this month and I used to have less than half of that with just a site hardcoded by me and YaBB SE.

I talked to a couple people I know in the hosting business and they said that it is not the thing for sites with a lot of users.  The only reason to go with a portal is if you have plenty of bandwidth to waste and maybe a dedicated server.  That's what I heard anyway...sniff, sniff...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 19, 2002, 01:24:50 AM
hmm.. thanks for the tip shaun - u just gave me more work to do! :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shaun on March 19, 2002, 01:28:06 AM
I'm gonna run PostNuke as long as I can while working on my site in straight html and YaBB SE.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 19, 2002, 06:14:22 PM
good idea again ;)

/me is copying everything he says now lol
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 24, 2002, 02:41:47 PM
Hey guys, is anybody working on this PostNuke and YSE integration thing?

Its kinda important...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 24, 2002, 03:22:03 PM
ive been looking arouns and searching like crazy and found nothing as of yet :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: AndyMan1 on March 24, 2002, 06:30:55 PM
hey, i didn't go through all of the replies, so this might have already been covered. If I am correct, Postnuke uses md5 encryption on all of the passwords, so that might be an obstacle in integration.

Otherwise I would love to see these to in wedlock. :) IMO YaBB is the best forum out there, better than Vbulletin.

I use postnuke, though I don't know too much about it, I just remembered messing around in the coding and found that out. Hope it helps.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 24, 2002, 07:04:49 PM
Well, I'm gonna integrate them...

the info will be placed on my website in a few days...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: John R on March 24, 2002, 07:29:28 PM

Well, I'm gonna integrate them...

the info will be placed on my website in a few days...


And you can just bet that your server will go into overload with all the downloads that will occur.

cheers......
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: boyzie on March 24, 2002, 07:34:48 PM
wow!....... ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 24, 2002, 07:35:22 PM
hehe - im helping him :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 24, 2002, 07:50:52 PM
well, I am gonna take about 3 weeks to do the integration, info about the integration will be on my site in a week, because I've gotta finish it first...

BTW: this is beyond the PacMan's capabilities to do, so it's probably gonna be a whole new release...

BTW(again): I have a couple tricks up my sleeve that you'll see in the integration, codenamed: YaBBPHP: Nuked
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 24, 2002, 07:54:54 PM
so thats the codename now? :P

/me messages matt to check tricks up sleeve ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: PabUK on March 24, 2002, 08:48:56 PM
/me quivers with excitement
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Purple Raine on March 26, 2002, 10:27:12 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
<takes breath>
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Now I just have to convince my hosting company to let me use it... I doubt it though as PostNuke uses insane amounts of resources apparently...

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 27, 2002, 06:51:32 PM
actually, we are using PHP-Nuke, so you don't have to convince your host to let you use PostNuke :)

PHP-Nuke in the mattsiegman.com development team's eyes is superior to PostNuke in many ways.  PostNuke is nice software though, don't get me wrong :)

Anyhow, the project has begun, it will be getting a page soon.  Right now, you can check it out on our boards:
http://www.mattsiegman.com/YaBBSE
Its in the Web Development section.

If you want to help with this project, email me: matt@mattsiegman.com
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on March 28, 2002, 11:23:49 AM
Quote
well, I am gonna take about 3 weeks to do the integration, info about the integration will be on my site in a week, because I've gotta finish it first...
Matt, don't be so selfish, it was my idea to start intergrating anyways. ;) You've been a great help so far.

You guys are still posting on this thread? Well anyways, PLZ contact for help, we need all that we can get. I have completed graphical intergration but I am getting tons of problem with coding.

The codename IS NOT YaBB::Nuked. We changed it to YuKE. It doesn't stand for anything but is just the combination of the words YaBB and Nuke.

Also, the mod won't be uploaded to matts site, we will use http://www.emulation-inc.com/~yuke/. I have tons of space there and 8gb bandwith.

Once the mod is finish, we'll encourage other users to make a postnuke port.

Yes, it will indeed be a whole new release. We need someone to create an installer for it, as of right now, it is beyond the capabilities of BoardMod SE 2.5 to do.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 12:03:12 PM
Sounds good guys, it will make use of 1.1.0?  And we've all read this right? http://www.yabb.info/community/gpl.txt
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on March 28, 2002, 12:09:22 PM
It makes use of 1.3. Once 1.3 is released, we'll be done.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: ReHlbe on March 28, 2002, 12:18:54 PM
what will make use of 1.3?! as things are now wich projects are being developed?? I've kinda lost my self in this thread.. ???
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on March 28, 2002, 12:20:26 PM
I know, it's LOOOONG. Oh, and about the licence, we will be writing our own licence :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 12:23:49 PM
Yes I see, make sure you read over the GPL before you go about using someone elses work and distribting it as your own :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on March 28, 2002, 12:27:52 PM
Distribute is as OUR own????  ??? No way, matt's not that stupid. We're not going to recreate yabbse...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on March 28, 2002, 12:33:09 PM
 ::) I'm just saying to make sure you guys read it...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: mediman on March 28, 2002, 12:43:44 PM
we have had any tests with postnuke and yabbse (phpnuke will not work because of too many hardcodet things in it) and only a totally rewrite of yabbse will work really good!

but this is a bad solution (not only because of the rights)!

we (for us) write at the moment a little "yabbnuke" and this, so we hope, will solve our probs with the memory and bd usage....

medi

p.s. but im sure matt will solve the probs with phpnuke :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 28, 2002, 03:08:08 PM
Silly kid... I have lotsa space, and 12 GB bandwidth :P  You get the credit for all the work anyway.
Your server is more of the development server, and the site I am designing will eat news about the project off your site, so we will be using your server for all the work, and mine for the frilly stuff :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 28, 2002, 03:13:31 PM
I guess I haven't filled mephidmann in well enough :)

YuKE is the official name of this project.

YuKE WILL be distributed seperately from YaBB SE, and PHP-Nuke, because of the EXTENSIVE modifications that we plan.

We do NOT intend to REPLACE YaBB SE, we are however, integrating it, and because of the heavy modifications, we distribute it SEPERATLY.  We will try to replace the version of the integrated YSE when new versions come out.

I plan to look into the memory problems with PHP-Nuke.

There are NO PLANS to integrate PostNuke and YaBB SE by us.  Sorry, we like PHP-Nuke better.

Development has started on database compatibility.
We plan to integrate the members, boards, etc, as well as give YaBB SE's template the ability to show PHP-Nuke blocks.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: ReHlbe on March 28, 2002, 04:51:36 PM
But what you're going to do is to

1) modify yabb to work with phpnuke (es, releasing a module for phpnuke)
2) modify phpnuke to work with yabb (but this doesn't make an sence in my opinion)
3) modify both of em releasing a standalone platform, as postnuke was released as a fork from phpnuke

?? ?? ??

I'd prefer the first option..but I wanted to know if you have an idea for that
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 28, 2002, 06:26:58 PM
option 3, but updates derived from future versions of both programs
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on March 28, 2002, 06:31:20 PM
What Jeff was saying about the liscence, is (if I remember correctly) if you make use of code released under the GPL, you also have to release your modified code under the GPL.  It's not sufficient to 'write your own license'.

I'd like to reiterate what jeff said about reading up on it  ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 28, 2002, 11:51:54 PM
yeah, i read the gpl...
we are using gpl
i hate gpl... quite annoying
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Snowman30 on March 30, 2002, 10:18:16 AM
Is there anyone working on a postnuke solution at the moment???

Im looking to keep YaBB SE for my forums but would like it to open up within the PostNuke framework.

Also is there anyway of intergrating GT Chat or a php chat with similar features into Yabb???

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on March 30, 2002, 12:28:14 PM
We are integrating PHP-Nuke and YaBB SE.

We have NO PLANS WHATSOEVER to integrate PostNuke and YaBB SE.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: AndyMan1 on March 31, 2002, 04:48:04 PM
could you make plans? Honestly, I think it would be a lot easier to build Yabb into Postnuke than into PHP-Nuke, both in the coding itself and in the support from the Nuke Teams.

Also, check out the newest headline at postnuke.com-
Quote
The PostNuke Content Management System, a premier open source content management system, received the ServerProven designation from the IBM X-Series server proving team.

I think a Postnuke Mod would get a LOT more attention than a PHP-nuke one.

Since you are already underway, do you think a postnuke mod could come after the PHP-nuke one, after you have the experience of messing with a nuke?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: ReHlbe on March 31, 2002, 04:53:56 PM
My opinion instead is that you can integrate it with either post or php nuke..but I think that such add-on would get way more success if it's built as a module, instead of developing a separate platform.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:22:08 PM
hehe.. how wouuld u suggest we go aboutthat rehIbe?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: ReHlbe on March 31, 2002, 08:38:13 PM
well, the first thing to consider is the level of integration you want to achieve..

if you want only the member list to be shared, and maybe adding just simple blocks with last headlines and forum info then you should only have to modify yabb se to work with a different users database..the topics, boards, etc parts wouldn't be touched.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:43:06 PM
but we need to modify the way of storing information.. what we're thinking is getting the best of both worlds and taking the best features of yabbse and phpnuke and "mmerging" everything ;)

we'll see how it goes though :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on March 31, 2002, 08:44:46 PM
I'd have to unfortunatly agree although I dont know how it would be done..

I probaly wont install what is being done here at the moment... I and I know a hell of alot of others would prefer PostNuke... I wasn't going to argue before but from the experience I've had PostNuke is a 100x more professional both working and looking.  another totally different  content management system is going to cause more problems... PLUS the fact it wont be nearly as customizable, themeable and wont have near enough the same amount of support as the other Products and in all honesty that was the 3 main reasons that I would have even considered PostNuke in the first place.

sorry... just my 2cents worth.

Ian.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on March 31, 2002, 08:46:34 PM
i was just thinking bout niceguyeddie's post... methinks me better talk to matt...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on March 31, 2002, 08:53:14 PM
lol what post was that? <sifting through lots of posts>
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 01:15:27 PM
So here's my dilemma...

I run a website with News, loads of articles, a very interactive forum, etc... and YaBB has been a godsend for me... it's turned my site into a community... the problem is, my site is VERY unorganized and it's becoming more and more of a chore to update... so I've thought about PostNuke... the main reason I didn't go over in the first place are threefold ::

a) All the Nukes look the same - so bland
b) Nuke takes up CRAPLOADS of resources
c) YaBB doesn't work with it...

Now, I can live with the so bland thing because I believe I can make it look sexy =)... besides, everyone thinks my site is Nuke-based anyway because of the look - pure coincidence (www.eldaronline.com)...

If I get to using the Nuke system, I may switch to dedicated servers, or arrange for something with my host regarding the resource demands...

but there still is the final problem, YaBB...

I think this is an issue many people have, hence why this thread is so popular, and we're torn between two great products.... and seeing a hybrid of the two is great, but since it's only being developed by 2 people, the chances of it coming through don't look too good (or am I wrong in presuming this?)

So what are my options?  Is there something out there that CAN use yabbse for integration?  
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 05:51:50 PM
Quote
I think this is an issue many people have, hence why this thread is so popular, and we're torn between two great products.... and seeing a hybrid of the two is great, but since it's only being developed by 2 people, the chances of it coming through don't look too good (or am I wrong in presuming this?)


I'd say you're very wrong in presuming this.  Amazing amounts can be done even with just 2 people working on things.  <sidelong look at jeff>  ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 01, 2002, 05:57:37 PM
Who me?  Yeah we can get lots done...helps when there are new fun things to do too ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Purple Raine on April 01, 2002, 08:10:15 PM
Hehehe... my sincerest apologies!  I honestly thought you had a truckload of people working with you on this!  If it isn't, then my hat comes off for the umpteenth time =)...

You have done a very excellent job.  We appreciate it very much (although it doesn't show)... both you and Jeff know how often I contact you for hassles and questions (and Raptors insults =), so you know I am a strong supporter of YaBB.  

I really do look forward to that day when YaBB has some sort of CMS integration, etc... and have much faith that someone will make it happen =)

But for now, I'll just play with PostNuke ... it's rather sad, since I can't use it, yet know it will benefit me so much =)

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on April 01, 2002, 08:30:56 PM
its 3 people.. though i have ot admit i dont do much ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Joseph Fung on April 01, 2002, 09:52:06 PM
No - I didn't mean to give the impression that it's just Jeff and I - but between the two of us, we've probably done a god 80%-90% of the code.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: M' on April 02, 2002, 01:06:22 AM
I like to know when yuke will be release. ;D

Ps. Can anyone suggest me about another CMS can combine with YaBB SE or non-affect to my YaBB SE
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on April 02, 2002, 02:51:24 AM
yuke will be out when iits out though i did hear matt say 2-4 weeks hopefully :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 02, 2002, 07:23:19 AM
Hehe everyone can go bug Matt about this ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on April 02, 2002, 08:29:37 AM
nevermind *lol*

I shoulda read the news <grins>

your saved Jeff hehe
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Purple Raine on April 02, 2002, 10:12:14 PM
OK, I spent the last 20 minutes or so re-reading this entire thread... now I'm ready to pitch in my 2 cents

as I'm not a programmer, I can't judge how simple or difficult something is to do (although i'm sure doing anything of this nature is very tough)...

so I'm just going to look at things from a user's standpoint...

from what I've heard and seen about PostNuke and phpNuke - it seems like PostNuke is the collective production of the CMS whereas phpNuke is the one-man band... in that case, I'd prefer to use something developed by a whole crew of people...

I must also agree that there a lot of bulletin board systems out there as well as CMS systems... so if y'all are building yet another CMS system, then it may be "just another one" ... and may and mostly likely will have many problems / bugs ... because you're altering two sets of codes...

whereas if you make yabb a module for one of the other developed systems out there, then you can have the support of yabb users and *nuke users because they'll be interested in using your product - and hence act as a great source of troubleshooting and bug squashing...

unless of course, you can get the developers of YaBB SE involved in this CMS process ...

I obviously like YaBB enough to *not* switch away from it into a *nuke which will make my life a heck lot easier... so I do hope that something will be done to make us all happy... and any support (emotional, or whatever =), I will offer ...

those are just my 0.02
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: PostDeals on April 03, 2002, 10:43:54 AM
I am looking for a PORTAL real badly i need to integrate into my site http://www.postdeals.net  if anyone can help me i would really appericiate it.

THANKS
Purvin
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 03, 2002, 10:50:10 AM
Also, to those Xoops users..we may have something in the works soon thanks to a long time YaBB user :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Mach8 on April 03, 2002, 12:05:39 PM
/me looks at Da...*censored*


;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Purple Raine on April 03, 2002, 01:35:01 PM
I don't know what Xoops is, but will download it now if it's what YaBB will be working with =)...

Great Stuff!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on April 03, 2002, 02:51:26 PM
1.3 is out. Matt's been away since 7 days or so. Damn it. I finished almost everything, not counting the blocks, which I was about to do. All that was left to do is crack the password encryption. That shouldn't take 7 days to do. Man, I released a new beta version almost daily. Matt, if you read this, please reply. You've been absent for too long. Matt promised it to be released when 1.3 came out. He's been gone ever since he made the promise...

Phpnuke is great, who cares Franciso is an ass, the things great. Postnuke hogs your bandwith.

Why phpnuke not postnuke? Two reasons:
1. I got the first idea to make the merge, I was using phpnuke at the moment.
2. Matt prefers phpnuke above postnuke.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on April 03, 2002, 04:06:47 PM
anyone interested in doing what the masses want and not what 2... maybe 3 people want? *smiles innocently*

hope it all works out for you mephidmann...
but I'd hate it to go against the name of yabbse if it doesnt.

I'm intregued with your reasoning...
according to most people their isnt much difference between the two cms's as far as bandwidth goes.. but thet the two of them do HOG bandwidth. Your other two reasons are personal and in all honesty I cant hold you against doing something you want to do...... but looking at it all in a wider perspective the suggestion posed wont feed the hunger of more than a few.

shame... I feel I've got excited over nothing.  :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on April 03, 2002, 05:44:07 PM
What about myPHPNuke? Will it be compatible, or only with PHPNuke?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on April 03, 2002, 05:50:01 PM
from what I'm aware

the suggestion posed will be compatable
with NEITHER PHPNuke or PostNuke

this being because hey, its a totally new cms (technically)  ::) called 'Yuke' which will have to get its own mods, themes, modules, support... etc etc

so if it wont work those two.. then chances of it working with myPHPNuke are nil and zero
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 03, 2002, 09:47:25 PM
OK Guys.  Heres the deal:

We are working with YaBB SE and PHP-Nuke to creat Yuke: A BRAND NEW PORTAL.  We will probably write a converter for PHP-Nuke, but it may work out of the box, we are still not sure what will happen.  YaBB SE on the other, will be changed A LOT.  We are integrating the Nuke-Style templates with YaBB style ease.  We are implementing blocks into YaBB templates (because PHP-Nuke templates have them, and we are using those) We will create a brand spankin new template for Yuke.  We will modify bugs we find in both pieces of software.

THESE PRODUCTS ARE NOT GOING TO USE POSTNUKE OR MYPHPNUKE.

Please, quit asking us for these.  We are familiar with PHP-Nuke, and are happier with it than PostNuke.  PostNuke is a resource hog.  it is built ON TOP OF PHP-Nuke, and it sucks up bandwidth like none other.  PHP-Nuke is much easier to change mainly because one guy coded it, and seems smaller.

In the FAR future, we may integrate PostNuke and YSE, but the is NOT WHAT WE ARE DOING NOW!

Mephimann and I have been working on this project a lot (with Omario's rambling of course ;) ) and we hope to get it done in 2 weeks or less.  However, there ARE NO GAURANTEES.  We do NOT have a set release date.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 03, 2002, 09:49:10 PM
BTW: we are not making this as a Mod for either product because of the massive amounts of modified code.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Nossie on April 03, 2002, 09:52:39 PM
hehe my hat is off to you kind sir  ;)



good luck !! 8)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: AndyMan1 on April 03, 2002, 10:57:43 PM
well, I just submitted a call out to the PostNuke community asking for assistance with working on a PostYabb..or a quite better name than that ;D

If they put it up on the main page, we will hopefully get some coders down here to get involved, and maybe work with matt some. After all, they built on top of PHP:Nuke, so they'd be able to offer some assistance, wether or not its the PHP and not Post version.

With even more crossed fingers comes the wish of someone else taking on a module job, maybe even compatible with both PHP and Postnuke.

Anyway, kudos to you matt for doing what your doing. I'm sticking with my lovable cuddly PN, but im sure others will definantly appreciate what you are doing. Do you think i said doing enough yet? Doing Doing Doing Doing Doing!! ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on April 04, 2002, 01:46:35 AM
It's only 3 people. Me, Matt, and Omario. So coders is a large word.

If I have time, I might help. I also have some other projects to work on once YuKE is finished.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on April 05, 2002, 12:11:21 AM
yeah and u ccant really call me a coder so.... ;D

yeah u can call me a coder btw ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 06, 2002, 07:09:42 PM
i preffer postnuke, but if phpnuke is the thing ill use it
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 07, 2002, 09:03:38 AM
Ive just made an mod for my board, a recent news mod, it will get the subject with link ordered by date and print it out. If this is something you would like to get the source to just say so.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 07, 2002, 09:27:07 AM
News.php already does that in 1.3 :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on April 07, 2002, 10:07:35 AM
Jeff, did you get my latest instant message?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 07, 2002, 10:35:38 AM
No...I guess not.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 07, 2002, 10:53:02 AM

News.php already does that in 1.3 :)



oh, well, i use News.php two places, one for each thing, full info with content of thread and so on, and then just the subject field.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: AnalogDuck on April 15, 2002, 11:54:38 AM
Uhhh, a message to the YaBBSE community moderators:

I recommend something that seems to be overlooked.  I think this thread ought to be broken into three or more seperate threads.

If non-YaBBSE developers are going to be developing YaBBSE modules for various CMS's, why not lock this thread down - along with all of it's silly arguments over who's CMS is the best CMS - and instead start new, unique threads of discussion for development of each YaBBSE mod; for postnuke, phpnuke, XOOPS, myPHPnuke, phpwebsite, etc.

Let each group cough up their own developers.  Don't screw with the origonal YaBBSE code or direction at all.  YaBBSE is a tight project with good focus and momentum.  These are very sought after qualities you should always be wary of abondoning.  If phpnuke peoples are willing to develop the integration, and so are XOOPS peoples, good for them.  PostNukers - you want your PostYaBB, go for it.  A good start would be to take your postnuke discussion elsewhere, to another thread.  The bickering over who's CMS should be the lucky winner of YaBBSE integration isn't doing you a bit of progress.

Break up and make seperate camps.  I don't think there's any reason everyone needs to agree on this one.

Obviously peoples who have been "in bed" with their CMS for a good length of time are not just going to up and leave all of their hard work and migrate massive amounts of content to a new CMS just for the sake of YaBBSE integration, so you should all stop being so selfish as to try and convince everyone else your CMS is more deserving.


"My CMS can can kick your CMS' butt!"
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 15, 2002, 06:55:37 PM
:P

Who wants to write an installer for YuKE?  any volunteers? we kinda need some help

BTW: most of the changing code is the YaBB code :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on April 15, 2002, 07:44:19 PM
Which is what it should be if you're making the CMS the central part of a site...

Analogduck, these guys making yuke will have a combined SE and phpNuke system under GPL if you can make use of that...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 16, 2002, 12:14:34 AM
Like an installer manual or? if so i can do it
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on April 16, 2002, 12:28:26 AM
my jobs to write sa manual :( ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on April 16, 2002, 04:35:21 AM
Don't wory peoples, I will look into writing the installer. Matt, you just get the phpnuke yuke theme and the yuke logo done.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Curbow 5 on April 16, 2002, 10:08:06 AM
Hmmmmm mmmm mmmm........ Lalalalalala..... (Waiting for some info on a beta release) Mmmmmm.....
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 16, 2002, 01:34:12 PM

Hmmmmm mmmm mmmm........ Lalalalalala..... (Waiting for some info on a beta release) Mmmmmm.....



who dosent :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 16, 2002, 04:24:45 PM

Don't wory peoples, I will look into writing the installer. Matt, you just get the phpnuke yuke theme and the yuke logo done.


and passwords I presume?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kalin Somphane on April 17, 2002, 12:49:08 PM
So now Matt's doing the thing I was doing... :( I guess my work was for nothing... and I was soo close
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 17, 2002, 04:17:57 PM
I did?

what were you doing?

I just wanted to come back to SE with a bang :) and mephidmann and several other people wanted a integration, so mephi and i decided to do one :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kalin Somphane on April 17, 2002, 07:00:58 PM
it's not excatly the same thing, but I was doing a PHP portal, similar to PHPNuke, but not exactly...

well I am going ot keep going on doing it...
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shoeb Omar on April 17, 2002, 07:34:00 PM

I did?

what were you doing?

I just wanted to come back to SE with a bang :) and mephidmann and several other people wanted a integration, so mephi and i decided to do one :)


*cough*

forgetting someone? ;)

Yeah I've not done much but mephid's given me work now! Lol.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kalin Somphane on April 17, 2002, 09:03:40 PM
major LOL
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 18, 2002, 06:19:57 PM
sorry omar :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: irbrian on April 19, 2002, 09:08:23 AM
Hey, I'm curious -- what is the status on this project? Now that my whole website's pretty much gone AWOL and I'm having to start over almost from scratch, I'm curious if maybe this thing would be worth my time. Especially considering that our Director is not very happy with my current site design.  >:( ;)

I actually have a couple specific questions about PHPNuke, besides just the Current Status, I mean since you guys seem to be combining your efforts or whatever...

I'm wondering, because I don't know anything about PHPNuke, if it would be possible once this project is complete to use the portal software to create two seperate site areas with the same member account information -- i.e., one website/portal with a mini-site for Staff Members and a mini-site for Everyone Else... including having two seperate YaBB SE forums.

Additionally, how customizable is PHPNuke? I mean, can I have pretty much whatever I want on different pages? Or is it limited to certain types of content? I.E., do I HAVE to have News on the main page, or can I move that to somewhere else if I so choose? Things like that.

I know this isn't necessarily the BEST place to ask these questions, but frankly :-[ ::) I find PHPNuke's site just a little... er, ok, dauntingly overwhelming.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: irbrian on April 19, 2002, 09:10:30 AM
it's not excatly the same thing, but I was doing a PHP portal, similar to PHPNuke, but not exactly...

well I am going ot keep going on doing it...


Well, Kalin, if you happen to finish your project first, or especially if your project happens to address more of my needs (see above post) then I'll certainly be interested! ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: irbrian on April 20, 2002, 09:51:03 AM
Anyone know the answer to these questions?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 21, 2002, 10:08:20 AM
once I figure this little biotch out (YSE;)) I'll get a public beta avaiable, then you'll have all the answers you need :)

Its very customizable though :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: M' on April 22, 2002, 10:39:16 PM
When the beta version will be released...  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Lonestar on April 22, 2002, 10:59:08 PM

Hey, I'm curious -- what is the status on this project? Now that my whole website's pretty much gone AWOL and I'm having to start over almost from scratch, I'm curious if maybe this thing would be worth my time. Especially considering that our Director is not very happy with my current site design.  >:( ;)

I actually have a couple specific questions about PHPNuke, besides just the Current Status, I mean since you guys seem to be combining your efforts or whatever...

I'm wondering, because I don't know anything about PHPNuke, if it would be possible once this project is complete to use the portal software to create two seperate site areas with the same member account information -- i.e., one website/portal with a mini-site for Staff Members and a mini-site for Everyone Else... including having two seperate YaBB SE forums.

Additionally, how customizable is PHPNuke? I mean, can I have pretty much whatever I want on different pages? Or is it limited to certain types of content? I.E., do I HAVE to have News on the main page, or can I move that to somewhere else if I so choose? Things like that.

I know this isn't necessarily the BEST place to ask these questions, but frankly :-[ ::) I find PHPNuke's site just a little... er, ok, dauntingly overwhelming.


PHPNuke is very customizable. Ive found you can take any template and make it any way you like. You can make your own template if you want. The news question you asked usually stays on the main page (index.php) so in order to have the news somewhere else would make you have to do lots of editing. The news only goes on the index page though not everywhere else.

As for the minisite question, it is also possible. When using PHPNuke your able to have content viewed by everyone, or viewed by registered users, or viewed by admins. So technically you can have one huge informational site, but the range of what one sees would depend upon their access rights. You need one whole database for PHPNuke sites, ive never seen two "minisites" blended into one DB, however i wouldnt say its impossible. You can have many nuke sites based on one DB and screw around with the viewable stuff and access rights to suit your needs.

When dealing with PHPNuke your ultimately dealing with blocks and modules. If your really familiar with PHP programming you can have it do almost anything you wish. PHPNuke is very easily customizable and in no way should intimidate anyone. With the plethora of MODS made for it and the HUGE amounts of templates you can make 100 sites in weeks if not days with a little editing in notepad and some imagination PHPNuke can do anything your heart desires.

Overwhelming? When looking at it and not delving in it. Once your using it its easy and fun to use. Try it, but make sure to use 5.4 and not 5.5, the latter being the buggiest ive seen. 5.4 is very good and not buggy at all from what ive seen. 5.3 however is also very good but 5.4 is the best version ive seen to date. Again i dont recommend 5.5

If your patient wait for 6, i can just imagine what that one will be like, i cant wait. My main site is PHPNuke 5.4 with many different mods implemented. I can even send a newsletter to registered users in HTML format with a simple click of the button. I dont even have to touch Outlook Express.

Try it you'll love it. ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kalin Somphane on April 29, 2002, 03:39:29 PM
hey, who is making installers? I think I could make the installer, but I think it is going to take me a whole lot of time, except if i just flat out steal the code from the YABBSE installer.

Very soon i am also going to need some beta testers. And Matt this time I am not going to ruin your whole board like last time... ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on April 29, 2002, 04:09:45 PM
sign me up for beta
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kalin Somphane on April 29, 2002, 05:24:56 PM
I think I am going to make a separate thread for beta signups as soon as the thing is ready for beta testing.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: M' on April 30, 2002, 02:02:12 PM
I'd like to try to be beta tester. If it's posible you can send information to me by send to mozart2k@ksc.th.com
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on April 30, 2002, 06:43:23 PM
it will be a public beta process, mainly because we will have worked out all the bugs
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tazthedev on May 02, 2002, 06:12:10 PM
will test for bugs too... :)

stef-26@sympatico.ca
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kevin21 on May 03, 2002, 02:05:27 PM
I have been following your posts for some time now, I am very impressed so far.  I for one will be a Yuke user.  I am not much of a coder, but I am willing to help in any way I can.

Good luck, and I will be sitting here waiting for the beta to be released.  :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: teksys on May 07, 2002, 02:02:36 PM
PHP-Nuke can't even be compared to Post-Nuke, i think. PostNuke is 100% better.

my two cents..


I prefer PHPNuke over postnuke, whoever is doing that consider there are more phpnuke users than postnuke users I believe.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on May 07, 2002, 04:26:27 PM
There's always YaPP later on....
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on May 07, 2002, 04:43:45 PM
too bad :) we are using PHPNuke

Jedi~: shut up :P we will be done first :P


PHP-Nuke can't even be compared to Post-Nuke, i think. PostNuke is 100% better.

my two cents..


I prefer PHPNuke over postnuke, whoever is doing that consider there are more phpnuke users than postnuke users I believe.

Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on May 07, 2002, 04:45:55 PM
Hehe, I know  :-\ :-X :( >:( :'(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: KnightTemplar on May 08, 2002, 08:06:35 PM
Have you all seen this?

http://bbtonuke.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=42
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: vcnick on May 08, 2002, 08:11:12 PM
may i know which php portal will be combine with YaBBse currently or you guys will have a totally new php portal that buildin yabbse.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on May 08, 2002, 09:50:49 PM
They will be two totally seperate pieces of software.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Axe on May 13, 2002, 02:22:07 AM
So does the thread exist yet for more information on this as a possible php/postnuke module?

I'm certainly all for a PostNuke module (but then, being PostNuke staff, I'm slightly biased heh).

Given the apparent soon-to-be demise of PHPNuke, and the uncertainty of its future, I'm not sure if that's the best avenue to go for with regards to which module to develop first (or at all).

As has been previously suggested, many PHPNuke users are switching to PostNuke, and development is going full force.

I would, however, suggest that anybody working on porting YaBBSE as a PostNuke module go to PostNuke.com (http://www.postnuke.com) and sign up to the pndev mailing list.

Aside from my obvious favour for PostNuke, I would certainly be interested in testing YaBBSE for PostNuke, and formerly ran YaBB as the forums on any sites I developed until I switched over to PN.

So, yeah, let me know (either on here or E-Mail me (axe@postnuke.com)) where I can find info for PostNuke ports.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 17, 2002, 05:39:47 PM
I just hope that a SE PostNuke module is out before the one of phpBB2 otherwise I'm gonna have to swing that way :'(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on May 17, 2002, 05:47:16 PM
I heard YaBB 2 might have a module...heard anything on that?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 17, 2002, 09:14:02 PM
bah..no..lol..they don't tell me anything..hehe  ;)

;D

Anyhow, I've been trying to get PostNuke to register users on the SE board,  but I'm afraid my PHP is not half as good as my Perl. I just can't get it to work right :'( . Anyone around here working on something like that? I really would prefer to take that path over a module, but at this point, I'll take what I can get..hehe

/me bites his tongue before he starts babbling even more....


(Note - No offence to anyone, but dear god I would much rather have YaBBSE as my board then phpBB..lol),
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on May 17, 2002, 09:28:02 PM
Switch, I may be able to give you a hand sometime this weekend.  All you want is new registered users to also register in the forum right?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on May 18, 2002, 03:53:07 AM

Switch, I may be able to give you a hand sometime this weekend.  All you want is new registered users to also register in the forum right?

If you do that, would you give me that code, too? Please?   :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on May 18, 2002, 08:34:48 AM
Sure ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 18, 2002, 09:38:22 AM
Yeah, that's exactly what I'm shooting for. I've been trying to tweek modules/NS-NewUser/User.php to just add the basic user information to the YaBBSE tables (all inside one database), but I just can't get it to write :'( ..heh ;)

If you could lend a hand Jeff, you would be my new hero..again (I still owe you for something a year ago..heh)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on May 18, 2002, 09:46:22 AM

(I still owe you for something a year ago..heh)


Don't remember but oh well ;)

Um, I may look sometime today or tomorrow...is it possible to get access to the server OR send me the file that creates new users in Nuke.  That way I can add what I need to test to that file.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: irbrian on May 18, 2002, 01:50:19 PM
Anyone have an idea roughly how close it is to a completion of this project?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: tore- on May 19, 2002, 06:08:28 AM
are there any portal made now or? its just to much to read through :)=
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 19, 2002, 11:50:45 PM
Hey Jeff, sorry about the delay. My ISP is having some troubles. Here is the file you were asking about.

NS-NewUser_User.php.zip (http://www.emptylabs.com/NS-NewUser_User.php.zip)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Axe on May 20, 2002, 07:01:53 PM

I heard YaBB 2 might have a module...heard anything on that?


Well, from the look of their forum on yabbforum.com YaBB2 still looks like it's in the "So how we gonna start this thing?" stage.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 21, 2002, 12:23:55 AM
NO IT'S NOT! :P

/me runs back to www.yabbforum.com and hides in the support forums.


lol ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Axe on May 22, 2002, 02:53:15 AM
lol, well as long as SOMEBODY makes a nice PHP PostNuke module, I'll be happy ;)

And I'm more than willing to beta test, and have a bash at making some form of "upgrade" script for those admins currently using XForum 1.7 or 1.8x on their PostNuke sites who want to switch to a new YaBB module.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: perrera on May 23, 2002, 10:02:13 AM
Can you post here the USER.php working mod?  ::)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 23, 2002, 11:10:25 AM
I'm sure it will be just as soon as it's ready :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on May 23, 2002, 11:21:48 AM
I did some work on it over the weekend but spent most of the weekend away...look this weekend maybe.  It's really not that difficult, I just lack motivation lately  ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Juvenall Wilson on May 23, 2002, 06:34:36 PM
lol ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: gegenwart on June 15, 2002, 05:35:39 AM
can i include the yabbse into phpnuke? or is it too soon?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on June 20, 2002, 05:34:03 PM

Jedi~: shut up :P we will be done first :P


I think not! YaPP 0.5 public beta is now ready for release for all of those that have been waiting and those that have been waiting for a better solution than having a seperate CMS and Forum because you like YaBBSE too much. Just check out the YaPP homesite, just click the banner in my sig!

Enjoy! :)
Jedi~
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on June 21, 2002, 02:44:46 AM
The intergration project got pretty boring, especially with some absent minds around ;P

I just whipped up my own CMS. I bet it has more modules than YaPP does >:D

Check it out here: http://www.Emulation-Inc.com
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on June 21, 2002, 09:04:00 AM
Doesn't look like it does ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on June 21, 2002, 12:14:10 PM
Oh yeah, prove it  ;).

I got these:
- Game of the Week
- Pic of the Day
- News (no news.php, seperate database table, still linked to yabbse announcement board)
- Downloads (emulator section)
- Short - downloads (rom section)
- Reviews
- Poll
- Affiliates (link exchange)
- Staff
- FAQ
- Archives (news, gotw, potd)
- online games (not really a module)
- search
- recommend us

That beats YaPP for sure  ;) But then again, I am not planning on releasing mine so you don't have to worry about me as a competitor. As a matter of fact, I might give away the source code for some of these modules for YaPP uses.

There are some more hidden admin modules, such as search engine submission, but I won't count them as modules for now.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: StephanL on June 21, 2002, 12:56:12 PM

Oh yeah, prove it  ;).

I got these:
- Game of the Week
- Pic of the Day
- News (no news.php, seperate database table, still linked to yabbse announcement board)
- Downloads (emulator section)
- Short - downloads (rom section)
- Reviews
- Poll
- Affiliates (link exchange)
- Staff
- FAQ
- Archives (news, gotw, potd)
- online games (not really a module)
- search
- recommend us

That beats YaPP for sure  ;) But then again, I am not planning on releasing mine so you don't have to worry about me as a competitor. As a matter of fact, I might give away the source code for some of these modules for YaPP uses.

There are some more hidden admin modules, such as search engine submission, but I won't count them as modules for now.
Open source? This is better then YAPP :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Shindou Hikaru on June 21, 2002, 01:00:40 PM
Hey, hey, hey. YaPP is cool  ;) If you want a cool CMS, get YaPP.

No, this is the CMS I use for my site, I am not giving it out because I want something original. I make some modules for YaPP, based on these, or they can have some of the source, but that's it.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: StephanL on June 21, 2002, 02:03:04 PM

Hey, hey, hey. YaPP is cool  ;) If you want a cool CMS, get YaPP.

No, this is the CMS I use for my site, I am not giving it out because I want something original. I make some modules for YaPP, based on these, or they can have some of the source, but that's it.
Lol, Good luck then :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Matt Siegman on July 09, 2002, 11:09:12 PM
Yeah we got sick of writing the portal :)

Anyway, check out my new portal stuff at my site (http://www.aposematic.com/yabbsupport/?referrer=8).  Its not really a portal, but the pages are being converted to PHP/MySQL :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 10, 2002, 09:01:40 AM
Jedi, the YaPP site has been down for two days now... any idea when it will be back up?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: David on July 10, 2002, 11:17:12 AM

Jedi, the YaPP site has been down for two days now... any idea when it will be back up?

Whenever Cyberwings is back up.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: firewired on July 10, 2002, 07:33:35 PM
Okay, I've looked at YaPP and EZTARCH and both show promise. Once something like this is installed how easy is it to uninstall from your board? Do these portals alter specific files in the original YaBB SE 1.4 set?

I'd like to try both out but I'm concerned that I may find myself inadvertantly stuck with a particular system. Worse, future YaBB upgrades (like 1.4.1) may have compatibility problems when it finds a portal add-in on top of your original installation.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: groundup on July 10, 2002, 07:35:28 PM
to the best of my knowledge, it is basically the same db schema so all you have to do is delete your files and upload the yabb files if you want to delete
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 10, 2002, 08:20:02 PM
YaPP adds a few tables to the YaBB database - if you remove YaPP, YaBB will just ignore them

YaPP also modifies the template.php and other files in the yabbse directory, so if you want to go back, make sure you keep a copy of those files safe.

It also adds a few more files to Sources, and it may change a few in there, so back up all your YaBB files before installing YaPP if you want to roll back. It adds a few mods (which I like), so you may have to tweak the YaBB install to get all the mods the way you had them before.

At least that's what I've noticed has changed... I installed YaPP (and a clean copy of YaBB) onto a "beta" sub-domain on my site while I play around with it. I haven't installed it on my live site yet. You can see the slightly tweaked site at http://ac2.computers4gaming.com, and the real site at http://ac2m.computers4gaming.com.

HTH, Moya
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: phark on July 10, 2002, 09:50:57 PM
I installed it on a live site first (DOH!)...

When I ran the dbmod.php file, I got some errors, so I went and did some chmod on some things, ran it again and maybe one more time after more errors.

When I finally started it up (after copying the files over), I had three of each menu items on the menu bar.  

I installed the old files that were replaced by YaPP back on the server and went on with life... never did figure out who to fix the YaPP.

Once I realized that everytime I ran dbmod, it mad duplicates (somewhere), I tried it again on a test site and ignored the errors and it worked great.

It looks like a great program from what I have done with it thus far.  My only complaints are the lack of support (Due to the lack of people using it to date, not alot of support in the forum) and their website is down more than it is up.

When I downloaded the install package the second time for the test system, it took almost an hour to download the 500k +/- package and I am on a cable modem.  I emailed them and offered a mirror, which was declined, as they are moving servers.

I hope their new server is online soon, as I think this is an EXCELLANT program and has a great future... its just in a imature state right now.  

Good work guys on a well thought out design and project...  I think you will make it!   ;D

The opinons expressed here are just my thoughts and that is that... sue me, beat me, spit on me, but just don't mess up my hair.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: groundup on July 10, 2002, 09:54:52 PM
Well.. yapp at it's current site will be back up on saturday with a lot more bandwith.  I would say the support from eric is superb.

/me gives a round of applause for Eric and Chris
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 10, 2002, 10:39:40 PM

Well.. yapp at it's current site will be back up on saturday with a lot more bandwith.  I would say the support from eric is superb.

/me gives a round of applause for Eric and Chris



Yeah! Will beta .6 be out then?????  ::)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: groundup on July 10, 2002, 10:42:16 PM
according to some insider sources I hear that progress has slowed because of the YaPP site being down.  This source has never been wrong before so I don't know when ;)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 11, 2002, 01:41:52 AM
Yes production has slowed because of the server being down, I myself can't access the site to download the source files I need to continue working on it.

So me and Eric are taking a little break from YaPP(until the server is back up). We hope to get 0.6 out soon but right now we are redesigning the YaPP admin center a bit and fixing any bugs that come along.

Sorry about the lack of support at the board, I havn't been able to access it at all myself. Every chance that I get I try to help with support but the server being down has been a real problem for that.

About the dbmod.php if you run it more than once it does multiply the stuff. I will try to find a way of fixing this. Also about the errors, they are not really ocurring, for some reason it is saying there is an error when most of the time there isn't. I will look into this bug as well.

As for uninstalling YaPP and just going with YaBBSE, it should be possible but I am not 100% sure, since I have not tried it myself.
Title: Pulling content from multiple forums
Post by: T-DoG on July 11, 2002, 01:56:46 AM
I was wondering if YaPP can take its news content not just from threads of one forum, but threads from multiple forums. In other words, it would be nice to be able to have different categories of news items that are basically threads from different forums.

I'm sorry if this question's been answered before.  I don't know much about YaPP because the site is down.  I've been looking at different portal mods of various forums, and it seems only YaBB has a portal mod that supports multiple news forums.  YaBB is really too slow for my purposes though. :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 11, 2002, 03:01:22 AM
Well at the moment this isn't possible, but that is a very good idea that I would like to impliment. I will ask Eric and see what he thinks.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: phark on July 12, 2002, 06:28:56 AM
About the dbmod.php if you run it more than once it does multiply the stuff. I will try to find a way of fixing this. Also about the errors, they are not really ocurring, for some reason it is saying there is an error when most of the time there isn't. I will look into this bug as well.


What about just reverse engineering the dbmod file, or putting something in it so it bombs out if its already been run once?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 12, 2002, 06:35:24 AM
Actually I already have a plan to fix this and it will be fixed for the 0.6 release. Which will probably be after that stupid server is up and running. ::)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: phark on July 12, 2002, 03:50:23 PM
Will it be able to fix my semi-installed version now?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 12, 2002, 05:25:49 PM
No it is not going to fix the problem with more than one items appearing, that is an easy fix which is on the board(you should look for it once the YaPP board is up).

The only thing I am going to do is make it so that it can only be run once. After it is ran the first time it will tell you that you have already installed it and you cannot run it again. As for those errors, I bet they where blank when it printed out right. For instance, it said mysql error:

but it never displayed an error which means an error never really occured. It was just a bug in dbmod.php I don't know what is causing it but I will look into it.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: phark on July 12, 2002, 05:52:57 PM
I did look for that... I found things like "delete the duplicate entry"....  Maybe I am dumb (no comments from the peanut gallery on that one), I'll look again.  

Thanks!   ;D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on July 14, 2002, 12:14:06 PM

Well at the moment this isn't possible, but that is a very good idea that I would like to impliment. I will ask Eric and see what he thinks.


You should of IM'ed me last night when you were on... I was never asked :P

You can post news items and have them show up in the categories, but they won't show up on the main page, not yet anyways. This might not make it for 0.6, 0.7 will be the major feature update, 0.6 is more for bugs and a couple features that we got to.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 14, 2002, 12:21:43 PM
Jedi, I thought the YaPP site was going back up yesterday - is there a new URL, or is it not ready yet?

Thanks, Moya
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: SomethingWicked on July 14, 2002, 12:54:14 PM
     Hi everyone , myself and a few others have been following yabb for along time now . I am really impressed by the support given in this community . We have also been working on portal intergration but I for one do not have enough knowledge of that type to do anything succesfull hehe . Anyways if there is a problem with your hosting or whatever I would be happy to give you a subdomain and space ,ftp whatever else you need to mirror your site jedi .
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: groundup on July 14, 2002, 01:21:44 PM

Jedi, I thought the YaPP site was going back up yesterday - is there a new URL, or is it not ready yet?

Thanks, Moya

We all thought that it would be up yesterday.  It is not something that can be controlled at this point :(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 15, 2002, 11:02:00 AM
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You should of IM'ed me last night when you were on... I was never asked

That's because I forgot to ask you about it. But this really would be usefull especially for a board like this one http://www.agigames.com/site.php as you can see there is more than 1 news board. It would be neat for all 3 news boards to be able to be included on the main page. It would be really easy to impliment as well. Just explode the board news value and use a for statement and make it put all the news boards into the main page.

I did the same thing in my news.php script for my site, it inlucludes the site news and the agi news but not the sci news since the main site isn't SCI related.

Well what do you think, should I impliment it?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Kromel on July 15, 2002, 03:55:11 PM
Damn you!  You got me digging in to AGI information!  Now you have my interest..  Kings Quest games rocked!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 16, 2002, 03:57:35 AM
Yep they do, and Space Quest rocks as well. :)

I have alot of tools on my site so you can make games like King's Quest. The programming language is very easy to learn. If you know something like php or qbasic it should be a snap to work with.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: end_yoke on July 16, 2002, 05:06:27 AM
Can someone please provide me with a d/l link for the latest version of YaPP? I got it installed on one board (Most impressed with it BTW!), now I've deleted the install files and would like to install it on a few more boards.


TIA
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 16, 2002, 05:42:37 AM
Well our server is down so there isn't a place to download it at the moment.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on July 16, 2002, 07:32:44 AM
We might of lost everything... again, we don't know. We're in the dark as much as you guys are, if we're not back in a few days I'm going to set up a temporary host, although slower, it'll provide us a place to keep providing support and to continue work on YaPP.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: end_yoke on July 16, 2002, 07:39:41 AM
Ok, thanks for the replys. Hope all is not lost. :'(
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 16, 2002, 10:50:29 AM
We might of lost everything... again, we don't know. We're in the dark as much as you guys are, if we're not back in a few days I'm going to set up a temporary host, although slower, it'll provide us a place to keep providing support and to continue work on YaPP.

Jedi, got tired of waiting for phpworld to come back. :)

I've set you up at http://yapp.computers4gaming.com, and emailed the password info to Chris (your email address doesn't work I don't think). He should forward the info to you.

In the meantime, folks can download v.5 of YaPP at ftp://ftp.computers4gaming.com/yapp05.zip. I don't have a ton of bandwidth (5GB, which I use 1-2 of) and storage space, but it can be upped if needed, or you can find a bigger place later on if you need to.

If you have any questions, email me at moya@computers4gaming.com.

Good luck, MM

PS: Speed isn't an issue at my site, it has never had any kind of major problems. :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: end_yoke on July 16, 2002, 10:57:43 AM
If you need a mirror to host some files...lemme know. I got 15gb. :P
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 16, 2002, 11:03:17 AM
end_yoke, how much are you paying for that 15GB? It would cost me $25/mo at dzones... just curious. :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: end_yoke on July 16, 2002, 12:29:55 PM
$99/Year 8)

Heres a mirror link for YaPP v.05
http://66.51.98.146/temp/yapp05.zip
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 16, 2002, 12:39:11 PM
Chris and Jedi!

I'm getting a lot of hits at yapp.computers4gaming.com already - please let us all know if you plan to use the site! LOL  8)

Oh, and if you want email addresses there, let me know and I'll set you up - just let me know what email addresses and passwords you want (****@computers4gaming.com).
Title: Multiple news forums/categories
Post by: T-DoG on July 16, 2002, 05:58:48 PM
Thanks for the responses, Chris and Eric.

I came across an active site that has a kind of portal/forum integration like I was describing.  (The site uses phpBB2, but unforunately, the webmaster doesn not want to release his code.)

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/

You see there are many categories of news: software, hardware, thoughts, developer, site updates, etc.  When you click on each news article/entry you are sent to the forum thread in the corresponding forum.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on July 16, 2002, 06:02:05 PM
Well that isn't the exact thing I was planning on doing but, multiple boards being part of the main news will be worked on.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on July 18, 2002, 07:39:24 AM
Mad Moya, although we appreciate the offer, I personally am going to decline it. We feel much more comfortable working off one of our servers, even if that means waiting a little bit. Although I will allow the 2 mirrors for YaPP 0.5, even though we lose our download count with it. I'm really waiting to see if we get our data back from our old host before doing too much, as I don't especially want to start back from ground up. So, thanks to those that have been wondering where the site is, and thanks to Mad Moya and end_yoke for hosting mirrors. We'll be back as soon as we can! :)
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Michele on July 18, 2002, 11:09:40 AM
Jedi, I understand wanting to wait to see if you can get your old files back... no hard feelings. :)

OTOH, you are still welcome to use that sub-domain in the meantime to share the source files back and forth between you and Chris. Heck, just because you have no real web site doesn't mean you have to stop programming! LOL

Also, let me know if/when you want me to take down the mirrored zip file... it's just there so folks who want to start playing with it, can.

Oh, one more thing... if you want, I can set up a temporary forum on the yapp.computers4gaming.com site just so you have a place to keep in touch with folks without scattering your messages all through the YaBB SE forums. We can even save the *.sql file so you can import the messages back into your site when it's up. Just let me know if you want a YaPP site or a YaBB site set up. :)

Good luck, Mad Moya
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Cerebral2 on July 19, 2002, 09:54:14 PM
Jedi remeber me? lol anyways your welcome to use one of my servers as i got a few good ones... lol if need to contact me you can threw http://www.shadowclanz.com or threw aim @ ThaEvilCerebral

good luck on getting your host back up its been down for a awhile
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on July 20, 2002, 06:58:56 AM
We're not accepting servers from anyone.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jeff Lewis on July 20, 2002, 10:39:47 AM
Maybe you guys can move this discussion from the SE forums now?
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on July 24, 2002, 07:31:34 PM
Sure can now that YaPP is back online :) :)

Ok, back to the subject of Portals...

//insert witty comment here
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Upsilon on August 16, 2002, 08:53:36 AM
can't connect to yapp.... what's the problem?!
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Chris Cromer on August 16, 2002, 10:53:04 AM
The site has apparently gone down, it should probably be up shorty(and please this topic is about php portals not just YaPP, so don't any one start asking for support for YaPP).
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Jedi~ on August 17, 2002, 02:30:09 PM
It's back
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: Sheik on December 14, 2002, 11:39:49 PM
look at http://www.trollix.com ask him how to integrate, he integrated xmb to postnuke, so I'm sure he can be a big help.
Title: Re:Here is some test space
Post by: andrea on January 03, 2003, 05:07:04 AM

I set up a postnuke on some test webspace, you can find under:
http://www.penthesilea.ch/yabbnuke (http://www.penthesilea.ch/yabbnuke)

If you yabb se developpers are interested to look at the integration stuff, then register there and test it.


Just discovered this test install does not run any longer. Dont know the reasons, I did not touch the sources. Maybe the reason is the PHP upgrades that were taken in the meantime. Shall I install the newest phpnuke version? If somebody of the devs would like to make use of this test site, I will do so. What I cannot promise is that formerly registered users will still be there after the upgrade  ;D , I will have to make the upgrade the shortest way.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: bart on January 03, 2003, 07:32:59 AM
Code: [Select]
Warning: Failed opening 'modules/News/index.php' for inclusion (include_path='') in /home/penthesi/public_html/yabbnuke/modules.php on line 40

:-X
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on January 03, 2003, 07:37:46 AM
Yes me too see this error. Thats why I asked if the test site is necessary any longer. If so I will do a fresh install withe newest version.
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: bart on January 03, 2003, 11:23:02 AM
Well if you have time enough you could do a fresh install :-X Personal I am a little bit curious how the portal looks like! :D
Title: Re:PHP Portals... will it....
Post by: andrea on January 03, 2003, 12:18:20 PM

Well if you have time enough you could do a fresh install :-X Personal I am a little bit curious how the portal looks like! :D


If one of the *devs* for example Joseph can use the site I will install it, and a SE board as well, and make a test admin, and give ftp access.
Otherwise there are plenty of phpnuke sites around where you can look how phpnuke looks like. For example www.phpnuke.org (http://www.phpnuke.org)