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Title: Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Joseph Fung on February 20, 2003, 11:21:33 AM
Unfortunately, because of bandwidth restrictions we've had to take the avatar gallery offline.  Although our monthly limit is 30 GB - more than enough for the forum and site, the Avatar Gallery has already sucked up a whopping 22 GB of transfer this month.

So, until we can find an alternative solution, or until we can pay for the extra bandwidth - the gallery is offline.  We'll let you know when it's back up.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Gobalopper on February 20, 2003, 05:46:19 PM
I've never looked at it before, what was in the avatar gallery to cause such huge bandwidth use?
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: alienine on February 21, 2003, 02:26:57 AM
I've never looked at it before, what was in the avatar gallery to cause such huge bandwidth use?

avatars maybe?
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Chris Cromer on February 21, 2003, 03:25:30 AM
 ::)
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Gobalopper on February 21, 2003, 03:42:48 AM
22GB worth though? :)
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Chris Cromer on February 21, 2003, 03:57:47 AM
Yes. :o
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: puma on February 21, 2003, 03:51:32 PM
If you want, I can host the Avatar Gallery.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Joseph Fung on February 21, 2003, 04:49:22 PM
You have 22GB of transfer you can give away?
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Joseph Fung on February 21, 2003, 05:36:23 PM
It seems we have a new home...stay alert for further updates :)_
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: puma on February 21, 2003, 06:39:22 PM
You have 22GB of transfer you can give away?

i have unlimited transfers, how many webspace [mb] needs the avatar gallery?
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Aquilo on February 21, 2003, 11:29:06 PM
was the avatar gallery hotlink protected for yabbse.org only??
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Zef Hemel on February 23, 2003, 09:59:11 AM
was the avatar gallery hotlink protected for yabbse.org only??
Yes it was.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: PC_Freak on February 23, 2003, 10:12:55 AM
i don't think it is really necessary to have an avatar gallery at yabbse.org :-\
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: andrea on February 23, 2003, 12:10:51 PM
It was fun to have it. An idea for bandwith reduction: what if one would limit the avatar size say to 20 KB (or a lower value maybe 10 KB). How much bandwith would that spare? Bigger avatars make anyway no sense... And delete all avatars from the gallery with are bigger than this limit.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Joseph Fung on February 23, 2003, 11:02:52 PM
I'd rather not remove all the big avatars - as some were really interesting.

Besides, I've found an alternative host - and I'm hoping to get that online in a few days :) Thanks for all the support!
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Spaceman-Spiff on February 24, 2003, 03:39:13 AM
maybe we need some moderators/managers for the avatar gallery
i used to see a few pr0n images and some misplaced images
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: skoen on February 24, 2003, 04:29:06 AM
If you need a mod for the avatar gallery, count me in ;)
Or a mod anywhere else too.

But the restriction of size in kB of the avatars is a good thing. Why make avatars bigger than 20kB ?
My avatar is 3kB.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Zef Hemel on February 24, 2003, 11:44:02 AM
But the restriction of size in kB of the avatars is a good thing. Why make avatars bigger than 20kB ?
My avatar is 3kB.
Mine are all above 20k (well most of them), why? Because it's an animation ;D
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Jeff Lewis on February 24, 2003, 12:23:56 PM
maybe we need some moderators/managers for the avatar gallery
i used to see a few pr0n images and some misplaced images

I was checking it several times a day to try to catch all the "bad" ones :)
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Feho on February 24, 2003, 06:19:17 PM
It was fun to have it. An idea for bandwith reduction: what if one would limit the avatar size say to 20 KB (or a lower value maybe 10 KB). How much bandwith would that spare? Bigger avatars make anyway no sense... And delete all avatars from the gallery with are bigger than this limit.

I think the limitation is good...  but if you think that isn't...

another thing: I have seen a lot of time the same avatar, posted by 2 or 3 different people.  it could be a good idea to delete doubles...
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Ian_S on March 02, 2003, 07:33:30 PM
I agree there was many duplicate images in the gallery... and there were quite a few that overlapped eachother and some just too damn big... :P
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: RBL_M1A2Tanker on March 06, 2003, 09:57:52 PM
**sighs** And just when I was going to upload a whole bunch of avatars that could be used.  Guess I'll have to wait until other arrangements are made. :)
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: 1979Z28 on March 07, 2003, 06:40:15 AM
One thing that I've noticed is people submitting avatars that are identical to others, EXCEPT for one MINOR thing changed. Something like the color of the background, or the color of the character, and whatnot. If people want to submit an animated .gif, they should make the background transparant, so that the image will work on any color background, and still look nice. If you did that, it would stop most of the changes to the backgrounds. As for the minor changes to the image itself, such as making Spiderman Green, I dunno. *shrug*

I had previously counted about 50 avatars total, in which they were identical, except for something minor, as the background.

Also, as a suggestion, maybe the categories for the Avatar Gallery could be more precise? I've gone through the 'Anime' gallery hundreds of times, looking for Final Fantasy avatars, and I have to go through each and every page looking for them. I go through about 100 different avatars before I find the Final Fantasy ones. Lots of wasted bandwidth there.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Peter Duggan on March 07, 2003, 01:01:34 PM
If people want to submit an animated .gif, they should make the background transparant, so that the image will work on any color background, and still look nice.

Sadly, this probably wouldn't work because it's simply not possible to anti-alias most images to 'work' on any background.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Anguz on March 08, 2003, 12:06:13 PM
I find the 65x65 pix avatars big enough, so maybe you can resize, not remove, the bigger ones...

in Mac, GraphicConverter can do it easily and fast with great compression, I don't know in PC a program like that yet (if anyone does, let me know  ;))
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: jack-uk on March 09, 2003, 01:18:45 PM
If it currently on a Unix box with Image Magick, then simply do :
Code: [Select]
mogrify -resize 65x65 *.gifIt will even keep aspect ratio!

.. and people keep telling me Unix is hard  ::)
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: RBL_M1A2Tanker on March 11, 2003, 12:07:47 AM
in Mac, GraphicConverter can do it easily and fast with great compression, I don't know in PC a program like that yet (if anyone does, let me know  ;))

Jasc Paint Shop Pro, Ulead PhotoImpact, possibly Adobe Photoshop (don't have the program yet, but I couldn't image it NOT having that ability).

And you could set the background on the animated gifs to being transparent.  That's easy too, although it can be just a bit tedious (having to go frame by frame on the animation, depending on the gif).
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Greg Robson on March 12, 2003, 04:16:10 AM
Just my 2 cents:

Would it be better if users had to have their avatars moderated and better if we had more categories? That way it would be easier to validate the incoming avatars.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: 1979Z28 on March 12, 2003, 06:14:15 AM
Yes!@! :P Especially the category part. ;D
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Ian_S on March 13, 2003, 07:29:39 PM
I too think there should be moe catagories... expecially under anime!!!
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Feho on March 23, 2003, 10:17:29 AM
moderators --> yes
more categories --> yes

people submitting same avatars --> NO  ;D
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: aga722 on March 29, 2003, 12:48:04 AM
http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net

has a great price for Bandwidth!
1$ = 1GB per month. ^_^
alsot 1$ = 100Meg Host space.

http://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/about/faq.shtml
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Ascelon on March 29, 2003, 04:31:04 PM
I really liked the Gallery. What you could do to reduce the bandwidth is:

1. Decide a size for all avatars. Ex. All avatars have to be 64x64.

2. Moderate new avatars.

3. Add a max kb size like the one you had 20kb max.

That's all of what I can think.

Regards.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: Feho on April 04, 2003, 10:38:41 PM
I agree with you, it could be a limit for avatar size.  But for the max kb size, like said another person, it is hard to create animeted gif under 10 kb.
Title: Re:Avatar Gallery: Closed Until Further Notice
Post by: David on April 05, 2003, 08:31:08 PM
It is back online.

http://www.yabbse.org/community/index.php?board=9;action=display;threadid=21082